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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-14 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3358 ]


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Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's telling that you state your question in terms of men objectifying women.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
OP here! Is it? What does it tell?

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
That you're not interested in or concerned about women objectifying men or each other.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly it's also telling that I framed the question in a circumstance that most people will be aware of and willing to accept?

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
OK, maybe you're right. Maybe most heterosexual women aren't aware of how they objectify other women - for good or bad. Let's rewrite your question.

Fear - "I fear comparison with this woman, but if she's an object rather than a person, it will be ok to judge and criticize her physical traits."

Hatred - "I hate other women and am unwilling to think of women who are not me as people"

Lust - "I don't care about this woman as anything other than how they serve my desire"

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Or along vectors other than gender and sex

Tbh your focus here is weirder to me than OP's

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. People objectify based on race, gender, and all sorts of things.

But OP is acting like only men objectify only women, which is just not true.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Okay let me be more blunt. It sounds like your agenda is not really, like, about objectifcation. It's just straight up What About Men. And that seems really useless and grody.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! Is that why I get called an MRA all the time? LOL!

I'm a bisexual woman who's sick of having her sexuality erased for the sake of feminism's patriarchy conspiracy. And I'm fed up with the feminist double standard of crying about objectification and then running off to drool over the latest hottie.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
That's chill and I think there are a lot of good points to make there. I think you could probably be doing a wayyyy better job of making them and engaging with the arguments but fair enough.

Re: Objectification question

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
+100000