[ SECRET POST #3367 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3367 ⌋

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Comments

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Ohhh, that kind.

Thinking about it, it makes sense to me to add dicks and not vaginas to characters on a logical level. M/M pairings already have a built in method to bottom and a method to top. I would naturally assume there's less vaginas being added to male bodies because anal sex exists so that kind of penetration-by-genital is already present. In F/F penetration-by-genital is not there by default and not everyone is into artificial genitals or toys, so if penetration-by-genital is the focus, you add dick.

Re: The power of dick

[philstar22]

It is actually such a kink of mine, and I wish it featured more in het fics. I like the idea of having both parts. It isn't just about penetration necessarily. Some people may just find the idea of girls with them hot or the idea of having one hot.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

I was talking purely logistics. Most people think of sex as penetrative involving genital areas and orifices, so it makes sense that they'd add the genitals and ability to women but since men have anal it's not something missing, you know

If you're a straight guy and want f/f but want penetrative sex, probably futa/futa or futa/f is the way youd go for. Women who like gay porn and want a PIV analogue are already set

Re: The power of dick

[philstar22]

I get that. I just don't think kinks are necessarily built around logistics. There are dildos. I think people more often read things they find hot, not because they think it works well.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

No, I don't think you're getting me sorry. I never said anybody went "I think this works well I'll add a dick here"

I'm talking about the reason people would find it hot, my theory is that its because when they think of "sex," they think of penetrative sex involving both peoples' natural genitals. So it makes sense to me that they find a way to add that ability where there wasnt one before even if they're not sitting there analyzing the logistics of it

da

[(Anonymous)]

dunno if you were ever a fan of it, but homestuck really spoiled me with smut with this. most fans write the aliens with both sets of genitals (and tentacles).

Re: da

[philstar22]

Ooooo. I have no interest in Homestruck canon, but now I may be interested in finding some fics.

:puts it on my list of things to do tomorrow:

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

I would naturally assume there's less vaginas being added to male bodies because anal sex exists so that kind of penetration-by-genital is already present.

There is the Omegaverse though, (which sometimes gives a vagina. Sometimes a lubricating asshole. Sometimes something else!) and in TF fandom, the male-coded/designated Transformers are given "valves" by fans which are pretty much vagina analogues. Of course, that's a series where penetration-by-genital isn't already present, but there have been asshole analogues and they aren't as popular. Nor are valve&asshole combos common.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

The common thread in all of these is that there is penetrative sex though so it makes sense that straight men would want to add that to f/f stuff, you know what I mean? I think that drives a lot of it

Transformers being given valves that are vaginas for other transformers to penetrate would count as the same thing, adding the ability for penetrative sex

Unless they're eating out valves or something?

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

Unless they're eating out valves or something?

That happens, and fingering, and anything else you could do with a vagina. It's not just limited to penetrative sex.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

At what ratio, though?

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

Transformers: All Media Types:
Vaginal Fingering tag: 80 fics
Anal fingering tag: 12 fics
Face-Sitting tag: 42 fics
Blowjobs: 113 fics
Cunnilingus: 57 fics
Oral Sex: 707 fics

Tried to stick to tags that would be fairly indicative of the genitals involved and thus good for comparison. Oral sex tag is included to show the total oral that isn't definitely/genital-specifically tagged.

That's... real thorough.

[chardmonster]

Re: That's... real thorough.

[blitzwing]

You can never be too thorough with robots' vaginas.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Point me to any fandom that isn't f/f and I can promise you with 99% assurance that penetrative sex is the predominant feature in their smut. You can do a ton of things with dicks but in almost every single m/m fandom its penetration penetration penetration

Transformers might be an outlier because its robots and theyre not human to begin with but if it is, its certainly not representative of the norm

Re: The power of dick

[philstar22]

My fandom has plenty of M/M just oral sex or just fingering or even just hand job fics. But it is a pretty small fandom and I've written a good chunk of them myself. I really like writing just oral sex fics.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah small fandoms with one or two authors with prevalent kinks would be different of course. But look at the big ones and tell me there isnt a very obvious trend.

Im not saying its a good trend mind. But to deny an overall trend exists is simply wron

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

Transformers might be an outlier because its robots and theyre not human to begin with but if it is, its certainly not representative of the norm

It might be an outlier. Penetrative sex could be most common, but it's difficult to tell. There's too many alternatives to sticky (robosex with genitals) like PnP, sparksex, tactile, fieldplay, etc while the sticky tag includes any sex where the bots have genitals, whether it's frottage, oral, valve spanking, etc.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe, but like I said above look at any juggernaut fandom that's not f/f and it's penetration errywhere. MCU, SPN, Teen Wolf, Harry Potter, you name it

There's def a trend overall that penetrative sex is default sex. Which is annoying sometimes but it's there. And that lots of people migrate toward it artificially if necessary by adding penetration methods like dicks on female characters makes sense to me given that context

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

Maybe, but like I said above look at any juggernaut fandom that's not f/f and it's penetration errywhere.

I checked the SPN fandom: 4079 fic results for "Anal Sex" on Ao3. 6849 fic results for "Oral Sex" on Ao3. Are you sure everyone's as gaga for penetration as you think they are?

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Sort it by kudos, and yeah, they are

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

You said it was "everywhere"--implying that penetration!sex is more common and prolific than other sex. Not that it was more popular. You said it was the most "predominant" feature in the smut. Not that it was the most popular.

That's either goalpost shifting or poor wording.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

Not for nothing, but counting purely based on those numbers can be misleading since lots of people don't tag things "anal sex" or "oral sex". "Oral sex" can also apply to het and slash and femmeslash and you haven't accounted for that. Penetrative sex also encompasses more than anal sex since anal sex is not that popular in het ships which do exist in SPN believe it or not. Etc. I get you're trying to make a point but those are bad methods.

Re: The power of dick

[blitzwing]

I get you're trying to make a point but those are bad methods.

Not really. It's a way to get a quick look at it, not a graph for a thesis paper :P

If you want to control for certain factors, that's easy enough to do, and anyone is welcome to do it and see if it changes things significantly.

Re: The power of dick

[(Anonymous)]

It's a bad method because lots of people tag their smut "sex" and you can't determine whether that's penetrative or not.

"Sex": 14645

It doesn't prove anything for or against the point you're trying to make unless you cherrypick. Taking only Oral (all genders) to Anal (predominantly slash) isn't a good comparison. Also doesn't account for the fact that fics that have anal sex usually also have oral sex in them which isn't the focus or is used as buildup for the "main event"