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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-23 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #3367 ]


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chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Jesus Christ.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-03-24 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like using the word fascist without it meeting the actual definition (words mean things!). That's why I used the word "thug" instead.

But look at how protesters are treated at Trump rallies. They're not only getting roughed up, the guy at the podium is encouraging it.

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
But look at how protesters are treated at Trump rallies.

This. This unbelievable willful ignorance. This infuriating double standard. This is why I have to abandon the left. Trump supporters and Trump protesters are the same exact person in my mind now.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Jesus Christ.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-03-24 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
No I'm pretty sure you abandoned the left because all these people actually wanting things to change triggered you.

Here's your red hat what's your hurry?

But yeah, I'm not saying the guy in the Trump shirt is the same as the idiot punching protesters. But you know what? A lot of the pro-Trump people are cheering while that happens. That's scary as fuck.
Edited 2016-03-24 00:43 (UTC)

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Could you elaborate on that view? Not sure where you're coming from.

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I touched a bit on my concerns downthread. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to bow out now because I'm just really fucking tired of being attacked by my own political party.

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
It looks like people here are politely disagreeing, not attacking?

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Is anyone else finding it funny that being offended by chalk is babies crying to anon, but disagreements with them is attacks? I hope this isn't the same person that thinks the college students are overreacting because the hypocrisy is real if it is...

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Not in this thread but in general.

If you're the anon from downthread, I think you get it. Being on the left means embracing progress, but I'm concerned about the use of illiberal tactics to achieve that progress. But every time I mention those tactics - banning speakers, doxxing people, blocking highways, FFS, slapping police horses - I get called a conservative or a Trump supporter, and god, it's tiresome. But I get your point, too. You think illiberalism calls for illiberal tactics.

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Anon from downthread (but not AYRT) & I want to clarify: I don't think illiberalism always justifies illiberal tactics. I think it comes down to cases. But, yes, I think there are times where that's the proper response.

With regards to the first point, I sympathize, for sure. It's a tricky line to maintain. And I think the... immediacy of the threat people feel, the moral aspect of it, it's not surprising that things get inflamed, but it's also extremely frustrating. And, like, just personally, being on the other side of this issue from you, I'm not happy about any of this. I'm horribly gloomy and depressed and constantly worried.

Re: Jesus Christ.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm horribly gloomy and depressed and constantly worried.

Well, I think that's what marks us as liberals. The right is just fuming mad.