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[ SECRET POST #432 ]

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I can't read Reborn. I've tried. Hell, I ROLEPLAY it. But I CANNOT read the canon because my suspension of disbelief just does not go far enough to swallow "ok a baby just SHOT SOME GUY IN THE FOREHEAD and now he's on FIRE ............ and then a spring came out of his head? What?? And everyone standing around watching is like 'oh, ok. That's perfectly normal'!?!?!?!? What the hell is wrong with you people!?" If it were JUST the first part, I could read it. But since it's like NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE that oh my god, these people have super amazing magic powers that nobody but the mafia seems to know about (seriously, what about the police? the hospitals treating the people they injure? etc etc i.e. WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT BEING HAULED OFF TO A CIRCUS) I'm like aethkjgehgkjfhjfhf CANNOT STAND IT

MGS, though, I can stand. Because that's the difference: like I am PERFECTLY WILLING to believe that dragons are invading New York -- IF EVERYONE IS FREAKING OUT ABOUT IT AND REACTING REALISTICALLY. In the MGS world, I figure "okay, there are freaks COVERED IN BEES walking around in this universe, but they're all recruited into the military (circus lol) and kept TOP SECRET so everyone but the military just doesn't know about them" as opposed to in Reborn where crazy shit happens where everyone can SEE (and no one cares gdhkjdfhfd). Like if the Pain were strolling down the street of NYC okay, yes, I'd have problems getting over that. But he's not! And okay, some of it is seriously ridiculous (recessive gene clones LOL, arm-mind-control LOL) -- but MGS's universe is kind of SET UP as a place where shit like this HAPPENS ALL THE TIME (at least if you're high enough in the military to know about it) and everyone's kind of "WTF" about it but they just accept it because they HAVE to, since it's happening.

Hahahah, you took the words right out of my mouth. My suspension of belief just cannot accomodate Reborn. And it's not like people think it's 100% normal. More like they're all retards and they're like, "Oh, Tsuna suddenly started moving faster! Nevermind the fact that I just heard a really loud gunshot!"

And hey, MGS actually has plot and some character development. It's also got that going for it over Reborn, too.

No, yeah, I love MGS (characters and plot and pedo stepmothers and everything) don't get me wrong! I was talking purely about suspension of disbelief here.

And weirdly enough I love Reborn, too, I just... can't stand it at the same time. I love the characters and how they interact, I just fghdkjhfdjk the WORLD, oh god the stupid universe they live in makes me want to punch people in the face.

HIS HEAD IS ON FIRE
HIS HEAD IS ON FIREEEE
HIS FUCKING HEAD IS ON FIRE YOU IDIOTS
THIS IS NOT FUCKING NORMAL
eatghaektjg SKJRHGSLKTRJGHSLKHGSFKJgfjkg

sorryI'mdone

Hahahahahaha XD

I tried reading Reborn to see what all the fuss was about. I had to stop after my suspension of belief was stretched so thin it snapped around halfway through volume 2. It's fine to give people ridiculous powers. But give them a decent context to work in, too. Geez ~_~

AS MUCH AS I'M OBSESSED WITH THIS SERIES, I agree. xD It's crack & I just can't seem to understand WHY it's suddenly okay. I think the first seven volumes are actually what kept me from reading it even though my friends kept telling me to. I just. Couldn't stand it.

But for some reason, after all the ANGST & SRS BSNS started happening, I sorta miss the crack. Even if it's crack that never made any sense lakfjaf.

Yeah, people are all "just ignore the crack and start reading where the ANGST AND SRS BSNS start" and I'm like but I HATE angst and I HATE srsbsns oh man ethgkdfjhkd I'm nevergonnareadthis

There's not a lot of angst unless you're reading for Gokudera AHHAHAHAlfkajf. That boy is like the emoboy of the entire series. But then again, when you get to TYL, Yamamoto kinda stops. D: Yeaaaaah. Yeah, don't read it. -DIES-

I think, with Reborn (mind you, I'm more up on anime canon than manga canon), it's that they realize something's not-quite-right when Tsuna goes into Dying Will Mode, it's that they don't get how it was possible, and they expect it from Tsuna, like he can control it on his own (chapter 2/episode 2 is a good show of this)

I haven't watched the anime, but oh god in the manga Reborn just SHOOTS HIM IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY and aetghaektj dfkjhdjkhfdkjhf HIS HEAD BURSTS INTO FLAME and his CLOTHES DISAPPEAR and his HAIR CHANGES TO A SPRING IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF STARING PEOPLE

....... at which point I was like okay, no. No.

No.

Not necessarily. The only time I remember Reborn shooting Tsuna at point blank range in the Daily Life Arc was the first time (and maybe in Gokudera's intro chapter, but because Gokudera is a mafioso, it's alright), and no one was around. So he's all in Dying Will Mode and it's all, "WTF was that shit?"

Reborn's usually hidden from sight and using a long range gun in the first parts. Actually, the way it's done in the anime makes more sense. The bullet splits halfway through the shot and it's a vapor that enters Tsuna. One could say, "Okay the fact it's colored is dramatic irony, so the viewers see it but no one else does."

Oh and yes, Nana Sawada is very naive, so take that with a grain of salt.

I just read this yesterday -- Yamamoto commiting emocide arc. They're falling off the building and halfway down when Reborn SHOOTS TSUNA THROUGH A WINDOW in front of a crowd of people gathered around watching to see if Yamamoto DIES, and then --

Here, look, you read it: http://www.onemanga.com/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/5/14/

Ah... like I said, I'm following anime canon more than manga canon. (Though I have that issue, hmm I suprised I missed that.)

I guess I'm just better at suspending my disbelief. It happens because it has to happen to advance Tsuna's character, so...

This might explain why most of the RPers for the fandom are pretty terrible.

Okay, if you don't like a series, we get it, but why are you bothering to RP it? And how are you RPing it? I'm just curious. Because apparently, you haven't gotten up to the "serious business" aspect of it or anything.

http://community.livejournal.com/khrdressingroom/31108.html

I'm Yamamoto. Crit me! (:

Well, I'll be honest. Your writing style (everyone's in that post, actually) is beautiful, but there's no voice to it (specifically: yours). Even if he's TYL!Yamamoto, he doesn't have a feel to him that makes a connection between the past and the future (the Gokudera does a very good job in drawing the connection, of the ones in that post). He doesn't have a very distinct feel to him.

It's hard to play someone who has just a few lines, but you need to give enough to him to make him feel ... three-dimensional. He's TYL!Yamamoto, so it's a little harder to tell.

And since I know the "no voice" thing isn't going to sound clear—I meant more a voice that makes it feel like that character. It just seems very bland overall. Good writing, nice prose, but it falls flat. It's how a lot of good writers seem when they aren't as good with a character.

Thanks, I'll work on it! And thanks for the compliment on the writing, too. (:

The connection between the past and the future, though, I purposely sort of left out, since Yamamoto's the kind of guy that would, you know, move on, and not cling like Gokudera. I'm not writing it because he's not thinking it -- or well, he does think about it a few times, but he's trying not to dwell. Whenever the past comes up, he's kind of like yeah, it happened. But we have to keep going. He's the only one in that post that's kind of just trying to go with the flow and take things as they come with optimism, which I think would be a trait of his, child and TYL. Yeah, he's not really overflowing with outward personality TYL -- but... he isn't, that is, not supposed to be. He's gotten deeper, quieter. They all have, haven't they?

But thanks again for the crit! I'll be thinking about it when I post next, and stuff. Hopefully I haven't been lumped into the "bad Reborn RPers" set yet!

Well, all of the zany stuff happens outside of the crowd. They think it was weird but awesome at the same thing. But the battles happen outside of the public eyes. Hell, the only one who finds it odd is Shouichi Irie, who notices all the wackiness but no one believes him.

Meh, I had my suspension of belief widen more than that with Bleach.

Piggybacking on this comment, I was just gonna point out that most of the do-rama going on in the current arc is Irie's fault, and I believe that one part of the plot has something to do with Irie's inability to suspend his disbelief and accept that what is happening is normal. After some contemplation on this part, I think that he's taken a practical mindset with the power of the Vongola rings. Because the Dying Will flame is obviously a new, untapped natural resource, he's willing to accept that it can be used to his advantage, but he can't accept that this is some supernatural batshit wtf-iness. He has to bring it down to his own level so his mind can process it, instead of letting the crack be what it wants to be...

[/tl;dr over-examination of crack manga prz to be moving on]

Okay, see, I could buy that. If they actually acknowledged it was weird.

The best example I can think of is Ocelot. Ocelot has probably been through the weirdest shit out of anyone in all the games. He is the child of a psychic and was on a team with a man whose super power was control of bees. Then he goes off to party in Shadow Moses, accompanied by a man who can change his appearance completely and a psychic freak who breaks the fourth wall like it was going out of style. His arm is chopped off by a robot ninja. Then he recruits a bisexual vampire with the power to run on water.Then, his arm is possessed by an evil clone. And then, in his climactic "lol just kidding" with Fortune, he utters this gem:

There is no such thing as miracles or the super-natural, only cutting-edge technology.

I mean, seriously. SERIOUSLY. And right after that you have the 30 minute codec conversation of wtfery and, okay, it's a fun series and is fucking hilarious, but a deep plot? lol no

>>He is the child of a psychic and was on a team with a man whose super power was control of bees.

EXACTLY, so my argument is that he'd be used to it by now, since apparently this happens all over the MGS world.

>>And then, in his climactic "lol just kidding" with Fortune, he utters this gem:

Ocelot never lies lolol

Never said anything about a deep plot, I said it was more believable than KHR and that it didn't break my willing suspension of disbelief meter.

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