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⌈ Secret Post #3379 ⌋

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So, Beamdog released an expansion to Baldur's Gate EE, and the world flips out brigading negative reviews about a transgender character.

In the game that had a gender-change girdle on the third map. An Edward/Edwina easter egg plot, a score of LGBT-friendly mods, a lesbian scene in the novelization, and a bestiality joke in Throne of Baal.

Granted, the expansion has other problems, but downvotes just for "anti-SJW" reasons are depressing.

it's just another example of how backwards, hypocritical, and juvenile GG is as a movement. Any actual issues are not addressed, there is only reactionary nonsense and outright hate.

You could say that of any movement. There are the people that are just in any movement for "victories" against "the enemy" and then there are decent people engaged with making positive change.

You just paint them all with the same brush because they happen to be an out-group for you.

But would you have bothered to give ARYT a response if they weren't (most likely) an out-group for you?

But would you have bothered to give ARYT a response if they weren't (most likely) an out-group for you?

I'm more likely to give that response to an in-group in defense of an out-group I don't belong to.

It's more effective at challenging out-group bias IMO, to point out to *your* own group that all groups are diverse and made of many types of people. Because if you defend your own in-group as diverse "we're not all like that" to an out-group you just get scoffed at.

Sometimes people in your own group will listen to you call out out-group bias. People that view you as "enemy" are much less likely to be open to that dialogue coming from their "enemy".

For better or worse, feminists created what Gamergate is today. They pointed out all the assholes in the movement, so the moderates got embarrassed to be a part of it and left. The only folks still involved at this point are the ones too stubborn and self-righteous to give in.

I haven't noticed a big change in Gamergate demographics tbh, but I don't pay all that much attention to it.

They pointed out all the assholes in the movement, so the moderates got embarrassed to be a part of it and left.

I somehow doubt this. Gamergate pointed out assholes in the anti-GG movement, like Sarah Nyberg being a pedophile, among other things, and people haven't abandoned being anti-GG as a result. Why would psychology be different for Gamergaters than for anti-GGers?

"there are assholes in this movement" doesn't bother most people, because they're a member of the in-group, and thus view the in-group as diverse (i.e "of course there are some assholes in our movement!"). It's generally out-groupers that see a few assholes in a group, and generalize that to the whole group and develop disgust for it. Not in-groupers.

and a bestiality joke in Throne of Baal.

err... one of these things is not like the other.

Good point. I'm tired and a bit grouchy so I jumped tracks mid-sentence.

Gamergaters are scum. What can you do?

Old-school cRPG fans! *sitcom music*

Seriously? Man, one of the mods I loved the most for BG2 was the one that removed all the romance restrictions, so I could go through the game as a big old polyamorous lesbian.

It makes me wonder if they don't realise the game was made by the same people who brought us Krem in Inquisition? Seriously, David Gaider left Bioware to go write Dragonspear for Beamdog - David Gaider was one of the writers for Baldur's Gate right back when, and even got on a fanfic forum once to commentate on the romance logistics between two Bhaalspawn! (I read his comments, he basically said it is not necessarily incest.)

Once momentary trans character who willingly changed gender (unlike the girdle or Edwin) is not going to stop me playing the game. The only thing stopping me is that I want to install from the discs, because installing from download is slow as shit for me (blame Aussie internet speeds).

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