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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-21 05:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3396 ]


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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this is sort of more nuanced.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-21 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's being generous.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-22 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
It probably is, though I've know families with severely autistic kids and it can sort of...I don't know how to put it, but, make the whole family about autism?
It sort of distorts things.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
That makes sense. I think it's irresponsible and super ignorant at best, but I do understand the basic psychology of why the anti-vax movement has such steam - people are desperate for answers and a professional-looking "study" sets up a fine scapegoat.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-22 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Basically it's like this: autistic babies tend to look rather normal up to a point, so by the time parents figure out something is wrong, the kids might be 2-4 years old. But people still have thing idea "but he was normal when I held him in my arms after birth" (he wasn't, it's just hard to tell that young)...so they eternally keep looking for causes that "fucked up" their perfect baby - and "sorry, you drew a short straw in the genetic lottery" is not an acceptable answer.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Dads particularly, ime. Just can't accept that their precious cock and balls produced a duffer (in their eyes).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-25 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, exactly. Symptoms of autism often show up around the time a whole bunch of routine vaccines are administered iirc.

COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT! /s

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
It only looks nuanced. Saying "we need to have a conversation about this" is a little disingenuous because there's no real debate amongst scientists about whether or not vaccines cause autism. They don't. That's a pretty short conversation!

But anti-vaxxers who refuse to accept this know that they've got a bad reputation now, so they're dialing it back a bit and revising their phrasing. It's like FOX News saying oh, we're not saying that black people are violent, we're just saying that the nation needs to pay attention to black on black violence, and all lives matter, etc. etc. That's not nuance. It's just indirect enough to fool people into thinking they're being reasonable.