[ SECRET POST #3405 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3405 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

When they called you a fag, they did realise you were a woman and not think you were a transwoman? Because that mistake has been made.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/04/10/lesbian-teen-asked-to-prove-gender-ejected-from-mcdonalds-for-using-womens-toilet/

And in a jurisdiction with no abusive bathroom laws, no less.

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[lb_lee]

Before I came out, the most common slurs I got were faggot and shemale.

11-year-old pissant new full well that his classmate was cis (unless he was WAY more intelligent than I gave him credit for), I think they were just the nastiest words he could think to call me.

Yes, I'm a trans gay man, but for Chrissakes, I was ELEVEN.

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

Well I'm very femme and present stereotypically feminine, so I don't think I'd be mistaken for trans by a homophobic person? Unless it was like a layered homophobic insult meant to say I "look mannish" or something as well? Either way, whatever. I could definitely see why the word "fag" would be more impacting to a trans woman though in the same way it'd be more impacting to a gay man. (or a straight man for that matter, it's a masculinity-attacking word)

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

When used on a trans woman, isn't it an masculinity assigning insult instead of masculinity detracting one?

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. But when I say it's "masculinity-targeting", take that how you will. To a trans woman, it's an insult that tells them they are sissy men, and to non-trans men, it tells them they are sissy men.

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

But *sissy* men and sissy *men* are two very different concepts, even from the abusers point of view. The shift in emphasis is an important distinction.

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[diet_poison]

The shift in emphasis explains why it's being used as an insult, but it's still a slur and still degrading. Why would it mean one group has less right to reclaim it?

Re: Do bisexual woman have the right to use the word faggot?

[(Anonymous)]

If gay men are reclaiming it then they are using its affirmation of still being men as the point of it. That means it is a double insult for trans-women. An insult from the original bigots, and now an insult for their fellow LGBT spectrum campaigners. And vice versa, since if trans women reclaimed it then it is an affirmation of a lack of masculinity which is an insult to the gay men.

That is why you got to be careful about reclaiming, because you will probably really only be compounding the insult and stereotype most of the time. It is better to fight for an abolition of a term than to fight to "reclaim" it.