[ SECRET POST #3406 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3406 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but I assumed it was because of this.
Well, the 'no doesn't really mean no' narrative in the mainstream, anyways. Especially since the times when it might be used are treated as novelties in the mainstream: male victims (unless the person being turned down is an axe-killer unhinged stalker, because that's the only way a guy would say no, amirite!?), and gay culture.

Plus mainstream media trends, which treat woman-getting-turned-down and man-getting-turned-down stories differently in different mediums.

There are so many examples, but the first thing that came to mind was in female-oriented comedies, where the girl is turned down or broken up with, she'll learn a lesson about self-improvement and confidence, and whether she or the guy end up together is only mildly relevant at the end. In male-oriented comedies of the same streak, the guy will often 'charm' his way into a woman's heart with persistence and increasing gifts/acts/words.*

Now, there are stories where men 'change' to get a girl - but the most mainstream, most common narratives like this (to contrast with the female-oriented comedies) in male-oriented comedies usually involve men pretending to be someone/something that they are not. See: the liar revealed storyline. The self-improvement narrative (be yourself, a self that has evolved and become stronger) is treated differently than the liar revealed storyline (be yourself, the self that she did not like in the first place, because now you've wormed your way into her heaaarrrtt).

*I know that some women like it when people prove that they are really interested. But it squicks me for personal reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there's also a big amount of not treating female stalkers as a big deal while with male stalkers it's treated as huge.

There's also that writers don't seem to know the difference between persistence and obsessiveness.

[diet_poison]

This is a good comment.

If I can add another personal perspective - I like it when guys who I'm interested in do things like be the first to text, ask if I want to hang out, etc. though this might be because I'm used to making the first move because of the number of times I've been attracted to guys more on the shy side. Showing interest, showing he's thinking about me, those are nice. But if a guy asked me out and I said no, I'd expect that to be the end of it.