[ SECRET POST #3411 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3411 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

That's an interesting way of looking at it; I didn't think of it like that. :)

As far as the creep factor goes, yeah, I see that (definitely, but they also did something similar in S4 Sam/Lilith--so not terribly surprised? What would be surprising is if they aged her up as the season continues), but I also thought that Dean's fear had to do with becoming what he hated, and more so because he would enjoy it (if I'm not mistaken, he's said this about times he's turned evil, circa S4? i could be wrong and be reading too much into it).

I suppose I don't see Amara as a misogynistic trope only because there have been so many evil characters, male or female, and if she is supposed to be God's foil, or mirror, then it makes sense that she is destructive, if God is supposed to be the creative life giving force (as opposed to her destruction and chaos). I like female villains. I'd say they were cold in the treatment of Bela--that I felt was messed up. And I have no qualms in saying they have issues with portraying women (the strong ones always end up dead, walk away, or have to act in a particular manner, which always irks me a bit, because it's limiting and of course they act that way, they're rough tough hunters, all decked out in flannel, etc .)

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aryt

I think the difference between Dean / Amara in season 11 and Sam/Lilith in seasons 3/4 is that when Lilith was in the child vessel she acted like a child and she was never looking to seduce Sam. The only time she acted like a seductress was in her adult vessel, which was a completely different vessel.

Also, Dean's talk about enjoying "evil" was not really a good confession, as he was talking about the times when he was "enjoing" torturing souls in hell (and I put that in between quotes since it is pretty obvious that the enjoyment came not out of causing pain, but about not being the one hurt at the time) and is completely different from the fear of being unable to control his own body. He pretty much says that the problem with the Amara thing is that he is no longer in control of his own body and that terrifies him, it has nothing to do with "letting myself do things I would otherwise despite but deep down I like" but "holy fuck, I can't move my arms at all and she is using me as a puppet".

And well, I do get why you wouldn't see it as a mysoginistic trope but ... uhm.. you pretty much described why it is (Male = light and creation, Female = Darkness and destruction. I mean, why can't it be the other way around?)

Female villians are cool. Problem is, this show has a horrible track record with them (Lilith is basically a McGuffin for Lucifer's story. Bela... ugh. Ruby is the Whore to the Madonna/Whore duality with Jess and is there just to advance Sam's story as a Mesiah figure. Abaddon was underused. Rowena is a caricature. The closest to a cool female villian we had was Meg and she had to get a redemption arc and a love interest out of nowhere for her final episode. Which I GET was because the actress was retiring, but still... ugh)