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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-19 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3424 ]


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ketita: (Default)

Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] ketita 2016-05-20 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like the cultures don't mix enough, though. I hear that there are white people who can grow up never having seen a non-white person, and that kind of boggles me.

Then again, (and I'm drawing this from conversations I've seen my friends have with Europeans), many of them consider the Americans extremely racist in terms of your categorization of race, and the fact that you systematically categorize people by race, and that people will start telling you what percentage of what type of blood they are.
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Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-05-20 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of that is because we have A) a history of redlining and 2) a long-standing tradition of suspicion of foreigners and immigrants and D) a tendency to demand the subsuming of imported culture (typically Asian, African or Central/South American) by "American culture" (which seems to be code for "white American culture.")

To put it another way, there's a joke I heard a long time ago. Two guys from Saudi Arabia move to the US with their families. They're all dressed in the traditional clothing, complete with the checkered keffiyahs and the stuff. As they're to be situated on opposite sides of the state, they make an agreement to meet in one year to decide who has assimilated better.

One year later, they meet. One of them says, "Well, I'm feeling pretty American. I just dropped off my daughter at softball practice and I'm gonna pick up some beers for the big game tonight. The wife's got a big steak dinner planned! We even went hunting last month and tomorrow we're gonna go watch a monster truck rally! What about you?"

The other one takes one look at him and says, "Shut up, raghead!"
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Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] ketita 2016-05-20 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
... well, that is definitely multiple levels of fucked up.

I do think that to some extent, all countries demand that immigrants subsume their own culture. The whole structure of "multiculturalism" is a fraught one, and as long as nation-states remain the basis for countries, there will have to be a measure of society building. tbh, I'm not sure where we'll go from the nation-state; a bunch of the most outspoken opponents of it seem to be in the liberal American academia, and ironically, they have the cultural heft not to even notice how powerfully they export their own culture and yet see themselves as "transcending" their nationality (also, notice that the US hasn't actually had its mainland threatened in a while... undisputed borders are a luxury).

That joke definitely drives the point home, though.

(I like how your numbering is A, 2, D :P)