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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-19 06:28 pm

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Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-20 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
In Canada we call ourselves a multicultural society, and we are, because the cultures mix. There's no one freaking out over "appropriation" (more freakouts happen over cultural exclusion from school curriculums) because we all share culture and aspects of it fairly freely.

Everyone where I live sort of comes out knowing a bit about India, a bit about China, a bit about Korea, a bit about Japan, a bit about France, a bit about Native culture... etc. It's not weird to have symbols or participate because we all sort of do it.

Re: Now for something different

(Anonymous) 2016-05-20 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're incredibly naive if you think that no POC are "freaking out" about cultural appropriation in Canada. Maybe you're just too privileged to realize the negative outcomes of appropriation.

Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-20 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Once more, with less racism on your part.
Edited 2016-05-20 04:17 (UTC)

Re: Now for something different

(Anonymous) 2016-05-20 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
How is what AYRT racist in any way?

Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-20 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's obviously racist to imply that they know better than someone who's actually from the culture they're commenting on.

Now let's all play the who's more privileged than who game. Fun for the whole family.

Re: Now for something different

(Anonymous) 2016-05-20 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
IA but that's not what AYRT was talking about. Arguing that no Canadian POCs are upset over cultural appropriation IS naive.
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Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-20 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
that is not how racism works...?

Re: Now for something different

(Anonymous) 2016-05-20 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know that someone commenting anonymously isn't Canadian?
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Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] slashgirl 2016-05-20 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
As a fellow Canadian, I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment. There may not be "freak outs" about appropriation but I still think it's an issue. And as much as we might like to think we've got no racial problems, well, we need only look at our FN reserves to know that is not true.

Also, you live in a city--that is far different from rural Canada--and I say that as a rural East coaster. Unless we teach it in the schools the majority white (supposedly Christian) population around here would have no idea about other cultures. Yes, it is very slowly changing...but in my school of over 400 kids we have maybe 5 or 6 kids of African descent and maybe that or a couple more who are First Nations/Aboriginal and another 4 or 5 who are of Asian descent. When I went through HS in the late 80s (over 1500 kids) there were maybe 5 black kids--and one of those was an exchange student.

I have older relatives who have no hesitation about using the n-word. I had a co-worker ask me just the other week why African descent people can use the n-word (and she actually said it) and European descent folks can't. That was a fun convo. I know people who hide the fact they have some First Nations ancestry, simply because it would cause them issues in their community.

Overall, I think we're slightly better on the racism front than the US, but we're certainly not a shining Utopia, especially once you get outside the major cities. (Oh, and cities: Halifax city council is refusing to remove the name Cornwallis from things named for Edward Cornwallis who helped found the city--but also issued the Scalping Procolamations--paying for the scalps of Mi'kmaq). We've still got a long way to go.

Re: Now for something different

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I just want to point out that I grew up in a rural place. I happen to live in a city now, but like... I lived in the middle of goddamn nowhere with one whole black kid in my high school (more Asian kids, and it's more diverse these days, but damn).

I think I've shared that information before, but tl;dr I'm not a "city person" by any stretch of the imagination. I can't speak for the east coast of Canada, obviously, but I stand by my assessment. As far as our great nation goes I've only lived here and Edmonton and I will say that Edmonton was way the hell more insular and racist in four months than anything I've experienced on the west coast in 25+ years.