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⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, I never begrudge a Jew their Star of David, and we have so many atheists that we actually have a standard they need to meet to be respected as a proper atheist. At least, that's how the joke goes:

Young Man to Old Man: Listen, I've been studying Talmud for five years and you know what? I'm an atheist.

Old Man: You little pisher, you've only been studying for five years and you already think you're allowed to call yourself an atheist?!

As to the cross/vampire discussion above, the version of the joke my Mother always tells me is that a vampire bursts into a woman's room and she holds up a cross. Vampire looks at her and says, "Lady, svert nit gornisht helfn." ("Lady, that ain't gonna help ya.")

(That's probably not correct Yiddish though, sorry. It just sounds so much funnier that way.)

[crossy_woad]

That's really funny! :D

[(Anonymous)]

lol
I love that joke.
Also I'm from germany and I love hearing yiddish expressions and phrases in english because it's the cutest german dialect ever and I'm so happy it survived with the people who made it out of nazi-occupied europe in time.
Sadly, the joke wouldn't work in german except maybe with a few old folks because we don't know what yiddish sounds like, anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

SA also I'm no yiddish expert but it sounds about right. from the perspective of a standard german speaker it's intelligible, and the double negation and pronunciation seem about right for the dialect. dunno about orthography though, if there is a standard orhography for yiddish.

P^2S: The jewish vampire trope has been done by polanski in the fearless vampire hunters

Yiddish isn't a German dialect!

[(Anonymous)]

Yiddish is its own language that formed as a combo of several languages such as Hebrew and German. Saying it's a dialect is poor understanding of linguistics on your part. A dialect is something like Louisiana English in comparison to standard American English.

Honestly, that's just so insulting of you to say this nonsense. Yiddish is part of Jewish heritage, not Germanics as an ethnic group. So of course the average German won't understand it! If anything, the younger generations of Jewish people won't understand it because of the lack of use and its dying status.

Re: Yiddish isn't a German dialect!

[(Anonymous)]

Erm... I do have studied linguistics and though germania languages were not my focus, I must inform you that yes, the firm of yiddish as it's known today is in fact a dialect of German. It's "Jewish german" quarter it's denomination (yiddish is short for yiddish daitsch) and your unerstanding of the term dialect seems a little narrow tbh.
the way I see it your view on this topic is clouded by either some sort of invented tradition Jewish self image construction that negates the very diverse Jewish identities that existed in Europe or by some sort of assumption that I'm an evil German trying to appropriate Jewish culture.

Also the reference to Germans not understanding it is not about the language. Most people would simply assume though that it's a weird variety of the Pfalz or rhinish dialect, because it's perfectly intelligible (the specific sentence used in the joke), though most would not recognize it for something specifically Jewish and just not get the joke.

Re: Yiddish isn't a German dialect!

[(Anonymous)]

Teh autocorrect is killing me. It's "germanic" the "form", "qua" and maybe something else. No glasses and small screen... meh

Re: Yiddish isn't a German dialect!

[(Anonymous)]

Also i don't really get how you just jump to feeling insulted. Rediscovering and re-normalizing Jewish roots in European culture and vice Versa seems like a perfectly positive thing to me. And feeling sad about the loss of that connection and excited at rediscovering it is kinda natural and rather apreciative than meant to insult, wouldn't you agree? Is it the term "dialect" that's the problem here? because that might be really a problem of you meaning its everyday meaning while I used the word I was taught when studying linguistics which is a bit less ...diminutive as the common understanding would have it.