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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-23 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3428 ]


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Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
While I can certainly see why some men have a problem with the term mansplaining (it's something that's been overused to the extent it's lost its original meaning, like a lot of other words that were useful when discussing sexism), why did he go after this one woman in particular? Is there some history there? Because going after her like that does makes him look like a dick. She didn't @ him in that status, she was just talking in general terms on her own Twitter feed. And she had to deal with a dump truck full of abuse because he replied in that manner.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's original meaning was pretty iffy, tho.

Hey, we need a word for a patronising and condescending explanation

Well men are as a group patronising and condescending, why not put "Man" in front of it "explaining"

Love it but let's lose a syllable

Mansplaining!

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Wah wah wah.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think the original meaning had an extra layer of explaining things to women in a patronising way because the man assumed that, because they were a woman, they automatically knew less than them about the subject.

It certainly happened to me a lot when I worked in IT.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, but its no more a /man/ behaviour than anything else.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Women are certainly often condescending but they distinctly assumed I was bad at my job because I was a woman. "Can I speak to a man? I need to get my computer fixed." is literally something that was said to me. Often. And I was extremely good at my job. I had the highest fix rate in the entire company. Women can be sexist but I never experienced them being sexist in that particular way.

How would a man assuming I know nothing about computers because I'm a woman and explaining to me how they work not mansplaining by its original definition?
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Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-24 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's not an inherent man behavior but I definitely think it's a cultural one.
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As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-05-24 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Such as

1. Explaining the fact that there are, for example, multiple colors of Incredible Hulk like ten times, over and over, because I am apparently incapable of retaining this information

2. Explaining my own dissertation topic to me, after years of my having worked on it

This really is a phenomenon that's attributable to guys and targeted at women. It just is. There's a whole subset of dudes who don't think women are capable of any kind of competency let alone expertise in their pet subject, even if they are actual experts in their own right.
Edited 2016-05-24 01:59 (UTC)

Re: As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe people just think you are not smart?
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Re: As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-05-24 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. But people know you're a coward.

Re: As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-24 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
A+ clapback would lol again.

Re: As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
hi blitzwing

Re: As someone who has had to deal with men explaining simple things to me

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
I've gotten the exact same treatment more often by female professors who were convinced they were the only person knowledgeable about a certain subject, and they did it to female and male students alike. It's almost as if neither your nor my anecdotal evidence is not any real "proof" after all.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It said that she had called him dick in other replies. Don't know why those were not psoeted.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
If she did call him a dick previous to this exchange, I can't see it on either of their Twitters. It's possible that she removed it, I suppose. But it reads as if she only called him a dick after he made that comment.

Re: Minecraft creator is a piece of human filth

(Anonymous) 2016-05-24 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
SA It was an entirely different woman who'd called him a dick. That's why I couldn't find it on my timeline.

I don't think he's "a piece of human filth" as the OP says. I think he's just being a bit of a douche on the internet (we all are at times) but it wasn't on to single her out like that.