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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-06 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3442 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3442 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
What physical harassment?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Physical contact wasn't made with Mary?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Link me to the posts where it was.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/box-2/

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I knew you were a stupid, bullying-apologist TERF, but you've sunk to a new low. Explain to me what physical contact was being made here, Terfy. Because what I see is Mary ripping a box out of Carla's hands. It's her own fault she got hit in the face with a pie.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Cute victim blaming.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh FUCK you. I'm done. I hope you're happy, Terfy, but you're a piece of shit.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm happy you're admitting defeat.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because you're a TERF with no soul. Don't you have some bathrooms to clutch your pearls about?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I don't support Carla's bullying?

When have I said anything negative about her being trans?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You have tried repeatedly to downplay or outright deny Mary's repeated transphobia and blackmail. You have implied repeatedly that Carla skating in the hallway and being childish is somehow worse than transphobia and blackmail. Mary is a fucking strawman character; she's a one-dimensional stereotype with no characterization beyond "awful, bigoted Christian bully." That's the character you're sympathetic to, not the "nuanced, kinda childish but self-confident trans character."

It says a lot about you that you're siding with the bigot. You could argue that Carla's no better (though you're wrong) but the solution then is to NOT SIDE WITH EITHER OF THEM, YOU FUCKING TERF.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
She made one offensive comment to Carla when Carla wouldn't leave her alone, you're acting like she's constantly going after her.

And like you're not downplaying Carla's bullying, like when she made Mary fear for her life?

http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/rube

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Holy fucking shit, "feared for her life?" Now I KNOW you're trolling. That's not even remotely accurate to the comic. If she feared for her life she would've closed the door and maybe called the cops or something. Instead, she stepped out to scream at Carla and ripped the box out of Carla's hands.

Yeah, feared for her life my entire ass.

Carla wasn't "going after" Mary either. Carla was just skating in the hall. Mary was purposely making herself a pest to get Carla to stop skating in the hall. It didn't work.

Nice job completely ignoring the whole "don't side with either one" thing by the way and instead doubling down on the bigot's side. You're a real piece of work, Terfy. I love how you don't even protest when I call you that -- are you just proud of it, or do I have you pegged wrong and you're just a garden-variety right-wing anti-LGBT bigot?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I've already responded to your 'terf' comments below, why should I repeat myself? You're making a lot of assumptions just because I don't like an obnoxious character who happens to be trans.

"Carla wasn't "going after" Mary either"

http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/stompstompstomp/
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/hopping/

If Mary started treating Carla horribly on her own I wouldn't be feeling sorry for her. And no, I don't agree with her politics at all. But she just wanted to be left alone, and Carla wouldn't stop.

And after that one comment, she hasn't done anything else to Carla either. Whereas Carla is still going after her.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I've already responded to your 'terf' comments below, why should I repeat myself?

No you fucking haven't. In fact you've pointedly ignored it every time.

I don't like an obnoxious character who happens to be trans is a far cry from your wildly flattering interpretations of Mary, her behavior and her treatment. Your insistance on her being an intended victim of Carla skating in the hall is wrong. Period. Mary escalated things, not Carla.

Whereas Carla is still going after her.

Carla spent time constructing ONE get-back prank at Mary, taking matters into her own hands because Ruth won't. It's a bit elaborate, it's a bit over-the-top, but it's hardly "still going after Mary" -- especially since we haven't seen either of them since the pie incident. Did you seriously expect Carla to not do anything in response to Mary's transphobia and blackmailing the RA?

Arguably both are shitty people, but as I said before, the proper answer then is to not take sides with either. Instead you side with the bigot. You may (claim to) not agree with her politics, but you're certainly downplaying her hatred and bigotry because Carla was being childish to her. Is that your value system? Transphobia and blackmail and bigotry are nothing in the face of a minor dispute over hallway noise?

Mary isn't a victim. She's the villain of the piece. You might as well tell me Gaston from Beauty and the Beast was the hard-done-by guy who just wanted to protect Belle and got pushed over a cliff for it. That's your logic.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Mary said something a little rude, so what? She deserves to be harassed and bullied for it?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
"No you fucking haven't. In fact you've pointedly ignored it every time."

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1428415.html?thread=914882751#cmt914882751

"Arguably both are shitty people, but as I said before, the proper answer then is to not take sides with either. Instead you side with the bigot. You may (claim to) not agree with her politics, but you're certainly downplaying her hatred and bigotry because Carla was being childish to her. Is that your value system? Transphobia and blackmail and bigotry are nothing in the face of a minor dispute over hallway noise?"

She made one offensive comment to Carla after Carla repeatedly pushed her. You're acting like she's hung effigies in the hallway or tried to stop Carla from using the women's bathroom or something.

"Arguably both are shitty people, but as I said before, the proper answer then is to not take sides with either. Instead you side with the bigot."

If the comic didn't portray Clara's obnoxiousness and over-the-top retaliation as being in the right, I probably wouldn't be on Mary's side.

"Mary isn't a victim. She's the villain of the piece. You might as well tell me Gaston from Beauty and the Beast was the hard-done-by guy who just wanted to protect Belle and got pushed over a cliff for it. That's your logic."

Except Gaston repeatedly went after Belle when she wanted nothing to do with him.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I give up. You are a concern-trolling moron and your "I swear I'm not a TERF!" link is not compelling evidence that you're not a TERF.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mean it this time?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you can have the last word if you absolutely must, I know you derive sexual satisfaction from it

(Anonymous) 2016-06-08 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, bb.
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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2016-06-08 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
No. Mary got pied in the face because she yanked the box out of Carla's hands. Granted, Carla was probably pretty certain she would do exactly that, but it was entirely Mary's own fault. The Rube-Goldberg machine only spelled out her name in lights.