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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-11 03:25 pm

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iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-11 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
How are Asians treated badly in America today?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You are trolling, right?
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-11 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Legit curious about how you think Asians are treated in America today. Also curious if you are Asian.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Like animals.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. I'd like to assure you that most white americans cannot tell one Asian race from another, and that I've heard the "slit eyes" name too many times to count. We're yellow bastards, we have small dicks, we all eat dogs and dolphins, are perverts who want to fuck catgirls, cannot play sports, and are automatically assumed to not only be able to fix your computers but we also ought to drop whatever are doing just to fix your damn thing. We are all supposed to be obsessed with honor and swords too.

It doesn't matter if I'm a fourth gen immigrant either. I've never been to Japan nor has either of my parents, but I'm still a foreigner and I'm still accused of being a war criminal and have been asked on more than one occasion not only to apologize for Pearl, but to apologize for making America bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That is just what I and my mom and dad have gone through, I bet others could tell you more.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't believe any of this. Especially the war part. People these days probably can't even tell you the name of the cities the bombs were dropped on.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, no racism exists ever if you refuse to believe it.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Uh, why do you think people are invested in being geographically accurate with their racial slurs? I'll give you a hint: they aren't. I got grief for Pearl Harbor despite the fact that I wasn't even born at the time and also I'm Chinese, not Japanese. My accusers probably couldn't pick out Pearl Harbor on a map, but that doesn't really matter because they're insulting me, not taking a geography exam.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Most black Americans can't tell one Asian Race from another. Just like most people outside of Europe can't tell Romani from Greek from Italian. Or people who can't tell Mexicans from Cubans from Native Americans.

This just in...people can't tell similar races apart unless there is a reason (usually racist) that there is a reason to. The Japanese hate

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm european, and I can't tell Romani from Greek from Italian. At least without hearing them talk.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm Italian and I can't tell Romani from us or Greek, too. There are some common facial traits in these countries so we can try to guess, but we're too mixed up to tell. You can really understand only when you see how they move and talk.
Also, I'm Italian, but everyone thinks I'm form Germany because I have blue eyes and fair skin and broad shoulders idek

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes people get Americans and Canadians mixed up. Tis true.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-12 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
wait, are we supposed to be able to tell the difference visually? /white American

(or was that your point. sorry if that was your point, I'm tired)

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Asian here. It depends on what kind of Asian you are, though. But honestly? I think it's weird you even have to ask, given that there ought to be plenty of examples in the news and maybe your imagination.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-11 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I can imagine all sorts of horrible things, but that doesn't mean they have any basis in reality.

My hometown has a large population of Filipinos. We had one idiot transfer in high school. He went "Are they from Philedelphia?" and got beat up after class, and there was some friction between them and the blacks in middle school, but I never saw anything other than that. The only time I heard somebody mention the 'eating dogs' stereotype, it was from a Filipino friend.

I don't have a television so I don't see a lot of the bleed and lead stories. I don't remember there being a lot of bleed-and-lead stories featuring Asians though. They make up less than 1 percent of the country's prison population. They have the highest percentage of college graduates out of all the races, so they're clearly not being kept out of higher education opportunities. Source: http://www.asian-nation.org/14-statistics.shtml

I read the news, but I don't remember any horror stories featuring Asians.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Or perhaps they didn't talk about the racism they experienced because they knew you'd be as unsympathetic as you've appeared in this thread.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-11 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
How is expressing what I haven't seen, and giving a couple of facts (and including a source) unsympathetic.

Someone asking you to explain your statements isn't a lack of sympathy.

Also, I went to school with these kids, sometimes for years. If someone was screaming slurs in class, I would have heard it.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I recently read this article that provides a simple take on a certain manifestation of discrimination that Asian Americans face: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/professional-burdens-model-minority-asian-americans/485492/

And as an Asian kid who survived the schoolyard, I recall no outright slurs but quite a few instances where my "funny" name became the subject of mockery. A few years ago (maybe?) there was a thread on here about the way people made fun of Shyamalan's name and I remember a few other people sharing similar experiences in the comments.

So you know... stuff like that.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-11 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good point about the names. The Filipino kids I knew had last names like Flores and Tomas, easy to pronounce. I can see how a name that's harder to pronounce would draw ugly attention.

The article's interesting, and provides an answer to the question about why the problems facing Asian-Americans face: y'all just don't talk about it as much. Going to school, 'thriving economically', and having high incomes are pretty normal, so Asians fade into the background and their problems fade with them.

That was interesting. Thanks for the answer.

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"If someone was screaming slurs in class, I would have heard it."

I've also never in my real life heard a white person call a black person a nigger out loud. I'm not going to be like "since I didn't hear it, I don't think it happens" though. If a black person told me someone had called them one, I'd believe them, you know? Horrible assholes exist and they may not be the majority or be out and proud about it in classrooms and public areas but they're out there and it's naive to think they aren't.

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
"...the blacks"


Yikes

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I like how she never replied to this.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
she's republican, she probably doesn't even know that shit is racist

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Lucky you. I don't really like getting involved in debates where the other person is like, "prove to me that Asians have problems with racism" because they're so depressing. I guess you could say that one of the racism related issues is that you're not the first person to obliquely suggest that racism isn't a thing that happens to Asians since they personally have not witnessed it. You won't be the last, either.

I don't know if you'll accept my assurance that yes, racism against Asians is still a thing that happens every day, even if you have somehow missed any examples of it. But you have it. I wish I didn't have to "prove" this to anyone, but I guess it's nice for you (and them) that you live someplace where you're protected from all of that ugliness.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-06-12 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not denying that Asians deal with racism. I'm seriously questioning what that looks like because I haven't seen any examples of it. Shockingly, if someone doesn't witness something and it isn't discussed in the media, they probably don't know too much about it. Somebody upthread dropped a link about why Asian-American grievances aren't better known and discussed.

Keep playing pretend that I'm some evil racist out to deny your problems. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.