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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-12 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #3448 ]


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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
PLEASE stop saying Xians. It's not the shorthand you think it is.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-06-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
It might be but my impression as a flat-memer was that you had a problem with Asians.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know what a 'flat-memer' is and Xian, like Xmas, is something i've used for years. So, no, no problem with Asians of any kind.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-06-13 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Flat-memer (perhaps flat-viewer would be more accurate here) is one who browses through a comm using the flat version. It means you frequently see comments in isolation. (like so)

Xian, like Xmas, is something i've used for years.

It's also a city in China, a Chinese name, and a Chinese word--specifically, one connected to Taoism--a different religion entirely. If you google Xian, everything that comes up will be related to China, not Christianty.

Dunno why you're so sold on the word, when it's fairly obscure. If you want to be dismissive of Christians, there's ones with a much clearer meaning (Bible-thumper, holy roller, etc), and if you're not wanting to be dismissive, there's what they call themselves (Christians).
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I use it as shorthand, just like i use Xmas. It's a habit and, like i've said, one i've used for years, even here on this comm.

I've never heard of it being anything about Asians or the city/name/etc. in China. You are literally the first person who has *ever* brought that up.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, yes, yet another neglected apostrophe. Illiteracy is alive and well on the internet, who knew!

Xi'an is the city in question. Xian (Greek origins) has been used by the Christian Church for centuries.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
lol I've never seen a Christian use "Xian"

(not that I find it super offensive - a little annoying, but not the end of the world. but I've definitely only seen it used by non-Christians. not saying you are wrong but I'm surprised to see that claim.)

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
No offence taken, I'm just geeky about (amongst other things) language and am very protective of neglected and abused apostrophes. *g*

Here are a few links, purely for the hell of it, tho the first one may be of use to any budding genealogists reading this:

www(.)genealogy-specialists.com/threads/when-is-an-x-not-an-x.4901/
wikipedia(.)org/wiki/Christogram
wikipedia(.)org/wiki/Xian_(abbreviation) (in the Oxford English Dictionary!)
and the diary mentioned in the above link, where the X=Christ abbreviation was used regularly, was written by this clergyman, who was the son of a clergyman:-
geni(.)com/people/Samuel-Rogers/6000000006444287566

Links were mutilated cos I wasn't not sure if dw would eat them if I didn't.

And yes, I'm aware none of these are partic modern usages, but they're still valid usages.

*backs slowly away from google*
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-13 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I guess that's why I've never heard it from a Christian, but I guess it does have historical roots. Thanks! (the more you know)
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-06-13 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
You're really calling me illiterate because I transliterated it without an apostrophe, when many Westerners writing about it do? You choose to be pedantic about that, but not about using the word "illiteracy" wrong?

Since you like links, have the Wikipedia entry on Xian (Taoism), an article on a Chinese woman named Xian, and the Travel China Guide article on Xian.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
different anon here... who speas chinese. and there's a huge difference between "Xian" (pronouced like shyan) and Xi'an (pronounced like shee-ahn). Both exist in chinese though but how the hell you would jump to that in this discussion is completely beyond my comprehension.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-06-14 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Both exist in chinese though but how the hell you would jump to that in this discussion is completely beyond my comprehension.

Because both are transliterated as Xian quite frequently, aka the spelled word that the person I replied to was using? IDK why you think that's a weird connection to make.

"That person said "curtain"! How on Earth did you start talking about "curtain"?!"

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't make you look like less of an idiot, though.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Truly do not give a flying fuck what some Anon on F!S thinks of me.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Ignore them. They're the same kind of person who tries to get the term "call a spade a spade" banned because "spade" is sometimes used as an obscure ethnic slur.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no worries there. As other Anon said - Xi'an is the city in China. 'Xian'...is not that.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
lol I remember that. That was weird.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
It was, but i learned something that day! I hadn't ever really known what that turn of phrase came from/referenced. I thought it was about playing cards.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
NA. Oh, shit that makes much more sense. I was reading that X as as Z sound and thought you were complaining about Zionists in some new internet way.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-13 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Heee! I...would never have thought to put X for Z, i dunno why. It's the default X-sound. :)