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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-16 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3452 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3452 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Courage, the Cowardly Dog]



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[Vampire Princess Miyu]


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[Powerpuff Girls]


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[The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, Evelyn/Imhotep]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Lost in Translation]


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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-06-16 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll up you one.

I do not think that even canon media has the role/function of being the moral high-ground (sure, it depends on the medium, and the audience) - but inherently, I think any story should be able to be told. I think there's too much emphasis on "keeping people's feelings safe" now - well, the reality is, SOME media might not be for you, and that's okay.
Edited 2016-06-16 23:27 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a very ballsy opinion to have right now. I respect you for voicing it.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that ballsy imo.
Outside of the Internet, most people feel the same way or just don't care.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
This is the internet, and it's ballsy for FS.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. I've seen like 10 other users in the past (and even in this thread) have the same """"ballsy""""" opinion. It's really not that unique.


But lol okay.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I should have been more specific.

I do not think that even canon media has the role/function of being the moral high-ground

That was what I thought was ballsy for a named user to say. Because the popular opinion on this comm seems to be that media has a moral responsibility to be progressive, diverse, not sexist, etc.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, I'm sick of this infantilizing of people. I trust people to tell the difference between fact and fiction. I love horror movies and books, scarier the better. I abhor violence in real life and can always tell the difference.

I keep seeing directed towards women especially "these books are harmful for women!"
cool, glad you are speaking up and judging what adult women can get off to. Glad you know they are too stupid to tell the difference between fact and fiction. It's not like we have centuries of history where we told women what they could and could not read because it might "harm them" (or read at all.)

There are books I find gross, sexist, distasteful, even harmful! but I DON'T GET TO TELL PEOPLE what they can read!
because that's the most harmful of all in my opinion.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-19 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
There are books I find gross, sexist, distasteful, even harmful! but I DON'T GET TO TELL PEOPLE what they can read! because that's the most harmful of all in my opinion.

I think there's a huge difference between pointing out grossness, sexism, harmfulness, etc. in fiction and actually telling people to stop reading something. Especially if you're not going into the creator's space to direct your literary criticism at them, the former can be a very good thing, imo.

It's when people start trying to ban books/fic, or harass creators directly, or bully readers into rejecting certain genres, that the solution to "bad fiction" becomes worse than the problem.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-06-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between silencing and criticizing. The Turner Diaries, for instance, can absolutely exist, but that doesn't mean it can't be criticized: http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/turner_diaries.html
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2016-06-17 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I actually read the damn thing like, 20 years ago. Someone had managed to get the whole thing up on some website way back.

I felt like I needed to take a shower after I read it just to get all the ick off. :-S
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-06-17 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Of course you can criticize it - what I'm not okay with is people trying to get thing banned and/or altered.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-06-17 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm coming at this from a U.S.-centric POV, but I don't get the impression that a lot of people are trying to ban fiction they don't like. Most often, they're telling each other not to purchase it.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree completely.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
It's not always abut keeping people's feelings safe- it's about keeping actual people safe. Normalization through media is absolutely a thing and it contributes to everything from racism to xenophobia to rape culture.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-17 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Most people are able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality, and the ones that can't would have issues anyway.