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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-19 02:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3455 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3455 ⌋

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Re: Is writing female friendships hard?

[personal profile] sarillia 2016-06-19 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
What's funny to me is that people will use both male and female writers and audiences as excuses for a mostly male cast. On the male side: men can relate more to other men. On the female side: most women are straight and attracted to men and so want to see more of them. There's always some reason for why it's only logical that most characters be male.

Re: Is writing female friendships hard?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-19 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right and it pisses me off so much

Like, even setting aside representation (which is obviously much more significant) - goddammit, who got the idea that when you're pandering to people who like women, the best way to do that is to have just straight up eye candy? That's terrible! I want to see some fucking characters who do things, that's what I'm attracted to, for God's sake. I can't imagine that it would really be the case that the majority of men want nothing more than eye candy. It's terrible and bizarre. Don't just throw a single hot woman actress onto the show. Bah.

Goddamn slash shippers don't know how good you have it, in terms of shipping potential alone.

Re: Is writing female friendships hard?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-19 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

Re: Is writing female friendships hard?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-19 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I find this hilarious as a webcomics fan.

Girls with Slingshots - female (bi?) writer, female lead, central relationship is two female best friends

Questionable Content - male (straight?) writer, heavily female cast, the friendships between boys (Marten+Amir, Wil+Sven, Marten+Steve) get so little play that they can disappear for years

almost anything John Allison that isn't MORDAWWA - male (straight?) writer, super-heavy emphasis on the female friendships, and they mostly feel very real, not idealized

I think that TV is a mess because of some kind of sexual politics in how actors are hired. Television tends to hire more male actors and use them more, with some exceptions here and there; movies are even worse.

Re: Is writing female friendships hard?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-19 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It might have something to do with the fact that in webcomics, it's pretty much the creator is the person making the final decision about what to do; in films and TV, there's a whole studio infrastructure with a ton of people having a say in what happens, and a ton of assumptions, both cultural assumptions and assumptions about what's most financially rewarding.

It's kind of insane that the system works as well as it does in making quality TV tbh