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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-26 03:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3462 ]


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caerbannog: (Default)

Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-06-26 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the 100+ and counting album of ppl being horrible racists? I only made it to the 20 somethings.

Makes me wonder what Australia will be like if marriage equality goes to a public vote...

And also, I don't get why ppl would "protest vote" by putting their vote to the option they're against? How does that work? How do they know it's a protest vote??
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] ypsilon42 2016-06-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think protest voting in this case was more about the people supporting the issue, than about the issue itself. Remain was supported by most mainstream politicians from both major parties. People who were dissatisfied with the political leaders and feel like the system failed them, voted against whatever these people voted. Especially since Leave at least promised some kind of change. I think some people were so caught up in the idea that their votes don't matter that they at least wanted to express their frustrations.
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-27 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
and this, boys and girls, is why that approach to politics is just really fucking stupid. :(

Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
To the North East of England, where this debacle started, in fairness to them, this is the first time ever their votes have counted. They just don't have the political awareness or experience with voting that is needed to deal with issues like this. It is why internal devolution within England was so needed (and so ignored, I mean if you are a politician do you really want to actually be answerable to your constituents or do you just want a safe seat that lets you get on with taking business deals and lining your own pockets; the area is so tribal they won't vote for the other guys and in the current set up any protest vote for a third party is a non-starter). The people there saw a national direct vote where their votes counted, for the first time ever, and sent a massive anti-establishment vote because it might be their only chance.

America should take note. DO you have a pro-establishment candidate who is getting backing from both sides versus an anti-establishment (or so they say) "maverick" candidate? Mmmm, hmmm?
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-27 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Changing the oligarchic establishment is important, but it's not the only factor that should be taken into account when voting for something, and furthermore, not all alternatives to a given establishment are necessarily better than the establishment itself.
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-27 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I might have read 20-30 of them. :/

is marriage equality not already a thing in Australia?
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-06-27 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
The few times a state allowed it the high court or pm has annulled it :(
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-27 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
that's stupid. C'mon, Australia, even 'Murica beat you to that one, get your shit together!
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-06-27 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
But religion!!

Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
The rainbow serpent forbids it, or it releases the bunyip? Or is it one of those immigrant religions?
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-27 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity does Australia have any sort of codified laws or documents pertaining to separation of church and state?

(I am shamefully ignorant on Australia's history)
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-06-27 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically yes, in the constitution "The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth"

Although States are allowed to make religious laws...and government funds religious schools and classes....and christian prayer opens parliament meetings...

We have the aussie survey coming up, will be interesting to see what the religion ratio is this time around.
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Re: Brexit fallout..Tw: racism, xenophobia and general awfulness (but I sort of wanted to talk about

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-29 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that is interesting and not expected. Huh.