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[ SECRET POST #3463 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3463 ⌋

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[Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera]

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[Megazone23pt2's Bodysuit 23]

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[Steve Shives]

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[Awful Hospital]

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[Rick & Michonne/Richonne | The Walking Dead]

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[The West Wing, The Newsroom]

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[Zootopia]

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[Archie Comics]

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Oh man, Tommen's death. I literally just gasped and then sat there dumbfounded for a couple of minutes. I did not see it coming. And the music for that entire sequence was just amazing. Absolutely brilliant. A bit sad to see Margaery go out that way.

I'm so looking forward to Jaime turning on Cersei. He has to. She did what he killed king Aerys for attempting to do, and I feel that was the ultimate betrayal. I can't see him forgiving her for doing it. Especially not when that was the catalyst for Tommen's suicide. I'll honestly be very surprised if she lives through all of the next season.

Brilliant that Arya killed Walder Frey! And yes, Rat Cook pie!! That'll teach you to kill guests under your own roof!

That library!! I want to go there, but no women and children :(

King in the North Jon! Slightly sad that Sansa was snubbed of any credit for anything during that meeting though. It was sad to just see her smile fall when she realised they all rallied around Jon and not the both of them. But I loved their moment on the ramparts earlier on! And ngl I totally expected them to kiss. Maybe that'll be in the cards when they are confirmed cousins?

I think I'm fairly alone in this, but I'm really hoping for some Sansa and Littlefinger shenanigans next season. I want to see her twirl him around her own little finger before turning on him. I hope he lasts until the final season though. He's the reason behind most of the shit that has happened, so I want him to see the finish line, but not be able to cross it.

Happy to see R+L=J being confirmed, slightly disappointed, but not surprised that Meera isn't Jon's twin. I liked that theory and they look so much alike. Oh well.

Now I'm just hoping that all the remaining Starks (and Stargaryan) will be united very early in the next season. The Hound too. And looking forward to Tyrion seeing Jon and Sansa again, though that will probably be a bit late in the season if it happens. I'm basically just super excited about the next season and it'll be awful to wait :(

smile fall when she realised they all rallied around Jon and not the both of them

I hate to point it out, but you misinterpreted that. Her intention was to snub Littlefinger by not speaking out and letting the other houses rally around Jon. Her smile fell when she looked out into the crowd and saw the look Littlefinger was giving her, and the fact that he deliberately not joining the cry of "King in the North". What you're supposed to take away is that she is immediately realizing she has crossed him and he isn't going to take it lightly. She may have just lost her most important ally, or worse he might retaliate.

No, Sansa's smile falls when Lyanna Mormont says "I don't care that he's a bastard." At that point she realises that it is solely Jon they are talking about. If you see her expression in the background at basically every point after that she looks sullen, and only smiles again when Jon looks at her, and even then it is a small one that falls almost immediately. In addition to this they say Jon avenged the Red Wedding, completely diminishing Sansa's role in it, completely forgetting that Jon totally fucked up last episode by falling for Ramsay's trap. (Sansa fucked up by not telling him about the Vale coming though) It's to Jon they beg forgiveness. They basically deny Sansa any recognition at all, despite the fact that it was for her they marched on Winterfell for. Notice that Sansa doesn't join in the cries for King in the North either.

I think she feels snubbed and that she and Littlefinger will team up for a while. The conversation that she and Jon had on the ramparts about needing to trust each other feels like foreshadowing that that is exactly what they won't do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzOpXpMgEzU

I remembered I saw someone on Reddit mentioning a featurette on this so I looked it up and it basically confirms that Sansa is not happy about the situation.

But that featurette is wrong, since she is still looking very self-satisfied when they're doing the chant.

Sure, a momentary pang of disappointment that she doesn't also get recognition is probably what happened, but the rest of it is still true. Sansa's intent is to do the opposite of what Littlefinger wants, the whole rest of the scene is her realizing she might have just screwed herself over.

But she doesn't? Up until the moment Jon looks down at her she looks quite blank. And what could she do but smile at that point?

Sansa expected them to rally around her, both Littlefinger and Jon pretty much assured her of that. But they didn't. They went to the bastard instead and solely to him. They even make a point out of the fact that he's a bastard, a Snow. This is what Catelyn feared would happen when Ned brought Jon home, and Sansa, as her mother's daughter, probably feels quite slighted. Speaking up during that scene wouldn't have helped her a bit. She would only have come across as petty, and that would certainly not have served her. Jon has pretty much taken her birthright and she is not happy about it though. I agree that she might have screwed herself over by refuting Littlefinger earlier on, but I still think they might work together. He has now pledged himself to house Stark for the time being, and he would much rather serve Sansa than Jon.

We obviously have very different readings of this though. We'll have to see in a little under a year from now to see how it really is :)

Um, well, the scene in question is right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqaSdZd-ww

Watching it, I can see Sansa looking down and smiling to herself slightly even while Lyanna Mormont was making her The North Remembers speech. I can't see how one can interpret her expression at 1:47-1:48 as blank or unhappy -- it's clearly one of approval. The smile she gives Jon later seems genuine, and it fades only when she meets Baelish's eyes. So on the whole, I think I agree with herpy's reading.

I want to see Petyr and Sansa have a full-on sex scene, each one pretending to love the other while only using them for their own gain. Like, I want it to look like the most loving, intimate, passionate sex, while the whole time the audience knows they're each faking their feelings but they don't know the other is faking. (Except they're not really faking, but they're both unaware that they've developed real feelings for each other despite the fact that they really don't want to.). So there are three layers at work: it looks like real passionate sex, they both think it's fake, but then it *actually is* real and passionate.

Or at the very least, they'd better kiss. Like, come onnnn.

Not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind this either. I still would like to see her turn on him in the end, but I'm totally creepyshipping Littlefinger/Sansa. I think Littlefinger is actually fairly truthful when it comes to his feelings towards Sansa, or at least as truthful as he can be. He was open about his love for Catelyn after all (Not that it helped her) and that has transferred and evolved as he has pretty much groomed and mentored Sansa. I would love for Sansa to pretend to return his feelings, including having sex, and despite wanting to hate him actually do care quite a bit in a twisted way.

There's the kiss they shared in the Vale at least! Complete with the creepy "If things were different I might have been your father" line, and subsequent murder of her aunt/his wife.

Their relationship is so fucked up, and I love it.

I too was expecting Jon and Sansa to kiss on the ramparts. They're both just so, so pretty and they look like their "parents" and I'm shallow af.

I'm jumping on that ship. Awkward, slightly confused power dynamics between two characters finally acting on how much they care for each other, played by actors who have such great chemistry? Sign me up.

Is 'Surprise! We're not siblings!' a trope? It should be.

I honestly don't expect Jon/Sansa but I do think Jon/Dany is possible, because Jon grew up with Sansa and not Dany. Plus Targaryen marriage rules, and the possible alliance it could be used to form.

If I want Jon/Sansa, I'll look for fanfic.

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