[ SECRET POST #3472 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3472 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as current fandom morality policing goes, and how sporking might to have contributed to it, I'm thinking nahhh.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, so you agree with the secret or not?

[(Anonymous)]

What is fic sporking?

[(Anonymous)]

Basically a roasting of bad fic.

[(Anonymous)]

What do you mean? It's not like it's stopped badfic from being produced, or even slowed it. That goes for regular fic too.

[(Anonymous)]

Like flaming, it can frighten inexperienced writers out of fic entirely, and usually isn't particularly constructive in how to fix the problems with the fic, so the writer being sporked doesn't improve and often gets defensive.

I'm personally okay with sporking trollfic (i.e, My Immortal) where the original author clearly doesn't care.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. Fic is always out there in nowhere-land, getting shot at from both sides. We keep writing it anyway, we're just sharing it in new, more or less shielded places.

[(Anonymous)]

agreed

[feotakahari]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: sporking should never have combined with social justice callouts. Sporking easily lends itself to "checklist" grading, where a perfectly fine fic is mocked and derided because it fits something on the checklist of things that automatically count as a "bad fic." Combined with callouts, that means hitting the checklist automatically makes you a terrible person who deserves to be spammed with harassing messages.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. and in my experience the only people who get defensive about defending sporking are losers who need to hold on to their picking on 13 year olds to make them feel better about themselves in comparison.

[(Anonymous)]

lol

assuming all badfic writers are vulnerable 13-year-olds

+1000000

[(Anonymous)]

Sporking never did anything but make fandom a more hostile space.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm not a fan of making fun of inexperienced writers who are just looking to have fun in fandom.


but on the other hand i really enjoyed when Topless Robot used to have fanfiction fridays. But that to me way never about the writing, it was about just how weird fandom could get. And i think the writers of those fanfics where trying to get those 'wtf' responses too.

[(Anonymous)]

For those who have a hard time understanding why someone would be upset by it. Imagine if in your creative writing class, your classmates picked up your work, and read through it aloud, mockingly adding comments about how stupid and awful your writing was. In front of an audience, laughing and mocking along.

Is it hard to understand why this would discourage someone from chancing it again?

(Source: a good friend of mine was sporked when we were young and she was devastated.)

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly I feel like anyone who actively engages in sporking is a fucking sociopath and I automatically assume they're one.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, I always saw sporking as being the fanfic equivalent of Mystery Science Theater/Rifftrax. Sometimes something is SO BAD that you just have to laugh at it.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I think there's a huge difference between laughing at a fic as you read it or even showing it to a friend or whatever, and reposting the same thing somewhere else publically and making a huge shitshow about it.

I mean, neither one is "nice" and I'm not going to pretend I think all writing is of equal quality, but the level of effort involved in reposting a story and making fun of it for an audience, sometimes line by line, just seems really assholish.

Not trying to say people can't or even shouldn't do it, because of course they're going to, but I'm not a fan of when those same people then try to justify it as being totally neutral.

[(Anonymous)]

Today we have celebrities reading RPF on cam instead. That is a bit like when your teenage idol finds your creative writing project and get a laugh from it. Fun times.

[(Anonymous)]

It actually is pretty fun. Anyone over the age of 13 who writes RPF and then feel *violated* because the celebrities involved made fun of it is ridiculous on multiple levels.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. The callout posts and pushing people to suicide if they dare to draw a character the wrong way is much worse these days.

[(Anonymous)]

... did you actually read the secret because it was comparing sporking and bad fanfiction and nothing else

"callout posts" have nothing to do with it, OP never said they liked fandom better today or that fandom back then was worse

[(Anonymous)]

Remember when we just had straight-up MST3King fics and everyone got author permission where at all possible?

[(Anonymous)]

me too. literature sporking? fine, there are authors who are genuinely awful people and write absolute garbage ridden with plot holes that makes a lot of money.

but c'mon. don't pick on the fan-fic written by somebody who's either really young or not exactly talented at writing but definitely passionate enough about the series they're writing for that they published it in the first place.....