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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-12 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3478 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I will give you sweet if you stretch the definition, but sexy??
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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2016-07-12 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I suppose enough of the people in the focus testing must have agreed with you. I LOVE comics!Staron and am pretty 'meh' on Stucky, and I still think this kiss was the most forced and awkward kiss in the entire MCU.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-07-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think most of the (broad, non-tumblr) fandom would agree he's straight. But Sharon? It was awkward (though maybe that can be sweet?)

I just personally can't get over the Peggy's niece thing, and they somehow managed to make that worse than in the comics still.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Would it be worse if you took out Cap's time jump and Sharon was Peggy's sister he got with after Peggy died or something?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-07-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure. I think sister is still sort of, odd? Like say your girlfriend died of cancer and you got with her sister right after? Still doesn't sound like a ship I'd like, tbh. (In real life, obviously these things can happen, but I can't say I'm a fan). Hell, I even found it a bit weird when my godmother's partner got together with her best friend not long after her death, cause it did feel like a replacement.

Mostly the thing in the MCU is that they snog -right- after Peggy's death, right after he finds out who she really is, and that sort of makes it skeevier to me (I'm more okay with he comics incarnation, though I still think the ship is bland AF).

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I looked at it as Steve and Sharon sort of building up to something for a long time, and Peggy...well, I think after all the time lost between them for Steve it might be more like always loving her, but not really being IN LOVE with her, which makes the Sharon stuff...less...skeevy...to me?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-07-12 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
See, but again, I didn't quite see that on actual film?

I can see he's no longer in love with Peggy, but does love her (though, time for him IS) shorter. Then again, the way he looks at her would make me think otherwise, but I realize that is interpretation.


But ultimately I don't really see the Sharon buildup (it's there, but it feels forced, hell Natasha would make more sense to me at this point, though I'm glad they kept it platonic;)

We see she's his neighbor who he thinks is cute, sure - but then, her whole being there is ALSO setup by Fury, which also makes it sort of based-on-a-lie for me.

I dunno, unless they do something amazing, I just don't think I can get into MCU Staron. It just has too many "nopes" for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Building up? He didn't even know who she really was until Peggy's funeral.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for reminding me! I completely forgot that the whole of a person can be reduced to who their relatives are.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, it's not like that might be important to Steve and considering everything he might have issues with people lying to him and deceiving him for his own good or anything.

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(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You "look at it" that way but the movies didn't actually show it to us at all

I genuinely admire you and OPs ability to do the work of enjoying the thing when the canon doesn't bother but I can't do it myself

I love Sharon to pieces for the little glimpses we get of her but from Steve's POV we go straight from him being pissed at her for lying&spying in WS to 'thanks for all the plot convenient assists with no personal talk at all, smooch' in CW

(I don't blame Sharon for doing her job, but given that Steve's trust in almost everything around him gets fucked sideways in WS, I'm not surprised that he felt a little burned. nieghbor. And I'm not surprised that he eventually forgave her, but....we didn't get to see any of that process. Just boom, here we are.)

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
+1, I was super looking forward to seeing more Sharon and up to this scene we were getting more - the great speech at the funeral, working with the team on the bombing, and then there was "thanks, kiss, bye" and we never saw her again.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well that's the great thing about interpretations. We don't all have to see the same thing in the given material.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
+100, and I'm rolling my eyes at the anon going "but interpretation!" Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem imagining things happened off-screen to get from point A to point B... but if it ends at points L or 15 then yes, I will need some showing of that road.

Not all interpretations are equal, especially not when all you have it "but it could've happened!"
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-07-13 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
This. He was *furious* that she lied to him about being an agent of SHIELD. And then she continues lying to him so that he only finds out, at the *funeral*, that she's Peggy's niece? So fucking ridiculous. He'd have cut her dead at that point and never trusted her again. Jeez.
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[personal profile] ketita 2016-07-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind him as straight, but the kiss was so awkwardly shoehorned into the movie, and Sharon was extremely unimportant for 99% of it. There were no emotional stakes there at all.

/not even talking about the Peggy's niece thing

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I can get behind thinking about him as straight only, but that kiss was just awkward imho.
Maybe it's because Steve/Peggy is my OTP and in that ship Steve SHINES on screen and I'm totally biased and ugh I can't really get over Sharon being Peggy's niece.
AND THE PACING. Come on, the romance with Peggy was sweet because she fell in love with him pre-serum and fought with him for years before giving him the first kiss, meanwhile Sharon's romance is just... off. Yes, they've known each others for years in the end but I really can't buy it. It just come off as awkward to me.

god sorry for my english.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-13 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
They invested too much into the Steve/Peggy ship (via multiple installments, across several different properties!) for me to buy Steve/Sharon with so little buildup, that's all there was to it.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-15 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. I can never accept MCU!Staron after they spent so much time and effort on Steggy. It was out of nowhere and felt like a slap in the face to his previously consistent characterization in regards to his feelings for Peggy.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-12 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, except Bucky's the one I can't see as anything but straight. The Steve/Sharon thing felt awkward to me, though--like it could have been a good story/moment if they took the time or placed it at a different point in the story, but they didn't.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2016-07-12 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I found it pretty forced and awkward but I imagine that there were plenty of people that liked it, or at least didn't care one way or another.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Most mainstream critcs and publications seem to have hated it. I don't think I even saw a backlash this big for a shoehorned Marvel romance, not even Brutasha.
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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-07-13 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm glad you liked it