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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-04 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3501 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3501 ⌋

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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-08-04 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
He was an asshole. But it's funny, see, because he's the one person who DOESN'T want to be there!!!1

I'm very biased against the character. The first episode I caught of this show was focused largely on the two black police officers doing most of the investigation. (The MC was sick in bed and having a horrible time.)

I really could hardly believe it. A show with two black men as the heroes??? A well-made cop show set on a beautiful island and NOT starring an irritatingly always-right white male? They got my hopes up. (Add to that I really liked the dynamic of two black characters who I thought were the showrunners, and thought I could get into the series.)

Oh, yeah. I hate him. If I'd seen it from the beginning and hadn't expected something different, maybe I'd think his asshole act was funny, but all I can see is another white guy who always has to be right. It always has to be about him, his "feelings" (even when he's just being a jerk), and the perfect girl has to fall for him without him changing one snippet of his piece of shit personality. Because.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-04 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel pretty much the same way. I saw a discussion about the show not that long ago talking about how Richard had changed and I thought... nah, not really. I mean he makes a miniscule effort but by the end of his run he's still essentially the same person. I don't know how his co-workers could stand someone who pisses and moans constantly about their home. He's rude all the time and doesn't see any use in learning how to be tactful, not even around his colleagues. There just wasn't any credible reason why a smart, beautiful woman would fall for someone like that and I'm quite sensitive to the whole "beautiful woman falls for an asshole who never changes" trope.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly I don't think his race had much bearing on it. He would have been just as obnoxious and humorless if he had been black as well.
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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-08-05 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
The point is they cast a white guy as usual. Not that he couldn't have been obnoxious if he was black.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-05 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
It's a British show and he's supposed to be a Very British Character so the only major options are white or Indian. And considering he's more than a bit of a stereotype then of course he's going to be white. That's not so much "as usual" as it is just a big old man-shaped gob of Britain.
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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-08-05 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe so. IDK. The way I discovered the show (as I said above) made me really angry that it was yet another oh so wonderful British white guy solving mystery. I know there are people who like genre, who love British mysteries, I can understand that. It just made me really angry when I thought I was getting something new and it turned out to feel stereotypical, smug, and borderline racist. It may be that I just can't enjoy the usual British mysteries anymore because I just want some fucking variety and I'm not finding enough of it with the white guy heroes. (That said, I've seen some excellent mystery series from the British, mostly white guys, but sometime starring women. I don't think they're all awful, but I'm kind of fed up.)

[personal profile] thezmage 2016-08-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I've watched (well, been in the room while my parents watched) more than enough mystery shows both British and American. I find it's an interesting dichotomy that British detective shows all seem to center around one old man or woman with a (usually) younger sidekick that they exposit to but doesn't really seem to be an equal, while the American shows all feature a duo of attractive young people who are much closer to equal (and almost always end up in bed together)