[ SECRET POST #3521 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3521 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[World of Warcraft: Legion]


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03.
(Fallout 4)


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04.
[Doctor Who - 12/Clara]


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05.
(The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)


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06.
[Bojack Horseman]


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07.
[Criminal Minds]


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08.
[Elite: Dangerous]


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09.
[Street Fighter]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 24 secrets from Secret Submission Post #503.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/4X6ZPRW.png
[Elite: Dangerous]

Transcript by OP

[fscom]

I am legitimately disturbed by some of the things I've done to make money in this game. Murdering people for cash, smuggling drugs, trading slaves, arming dictatorships... This is stuff I would never do in real life, but in Elite, it's just another day's work. S!B Most of the fandom for this game is on Reddit, and you know what they're like when it comes to social issues in the media.

[kaijinscendre]

Why are you disturbed? You mentioned why these things are different. One is real life, one is pretend. That is why you do it. Because it is a game.

[(Anonymous)]

People do have emotional responses to things that they consume, you know.

[kaijinscendre]

Then...don't do it? If you are so bothered by your actions in a fictional world, stop doing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that the OP's best course of action is to stop playing the game. But it's not the case that no one will ever have any reaction to what they see in a game or movie.

[kaijinscendre]

Well, yes. I have had negative reactions to movies. Requiem for A Dream gave me a panic attack. I solved that by never watching it again.

[(Anonymous)]

The whole film, or just certain scenes?

[(Anonymous)]

So you understand how OP could be disturbed by a video game even though it's pretend.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, honestly you don't know why they do it. There are people who do these things in game because they would like to IRL, but just haven't brought themselves to that point. Most never will but there's always that one...

[iceyred]

It seems to me that your problem has a very simple solution. If the game bothers you that much then just stop playing the game.

[feotakahari]

I've read a lot of books that take a sudden detour into WTFery--justifying slavery of "lesser races," saying gay people should be exterminated, that sort of thing. Even if you stop reading there, it's kind of alarming that someone thought this was appropriate, especially if it was written recently.

[iceyred]

This isn't a book. It's a game. One the OP is familiar with. And can stop playing at any time.

Even with books, if you don't like it the find something that suits you better, and put it out of your mind. That's how I handled all three chapters of Twilight that I got through.

[feotakahari]

I'm struggling to figure out how to word my response to this. What you're saying is certainly a common-sense way of putting it, and you don't have to analyze something if you don't want to. But to the extent that fandom even has a purpose or a meaning beyond fluff and buttsex, that meaning involves analyzing and reinterpreting fiction. I think there's value in analyzing something even if you don't like it, and if there weren't, I don't think Fandom Secrets as a community would have a valid reason to exist.

Honestly, it seems like the anti-analysis attitude is something unique to the video game fandom. Book fans are all over analyzing stories that make them uncomfortable, and to a lesser extent, so are film fans. Video gamers are so used to people like Jack Thompson saying that video games are bad, they got used to countering by arguing that video games are fiction and shouldn't matter, and now that's the default response whenever you dissect weird morality in games.

[iceyred]

My response wasn't about the medium. It's about the fact that if you are consuming a piece of fiction and it makes you uncomfortable, you can put it down and find something else.

The secret-maker isn't analyzing the work, they just made a secret about how it disturbs them.

[feotakahari]

Games where you play as some manner of mercenary or traveling killer-for-hire often have a pretty skew sense of morality. Think of all the goblins whose homes your RPG heroes have broken into in order to kill them and steal their gold pieces.

That said, I was pretty alarmed in Darkstar One when I scavenged cargo from a wrecked ship and it turned out to be intelligent android slaves. The only things the game would let me do with them were sell them or jettison them into space.

[(Anonymous)]

Would you prefer games where you are (or can be) a good person? Cause I am sure people on here or other places could come up with a rec list.

[herpymcderp]

If you are legitimately disturbed to be participating in simulated violence you might want to consider dropping the habit, you know? If it's affecting you that much psychologically, it might be best to stay away.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I don't know, sounds pretty tame compared to some of the EVE online hijinks.

[(Anonymous)]

More visceral, I imagine.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

There is that.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course they sound tame. EVE Online involved real crimes with real money.

[diet_poison]

I think that is extremely normal. It's not really my playstyle, but I know very decent people who love to be assholes in game, and since they're being assholes to people who don't actually exist, it's w/e

[(Anonymous)]

For the record, Elite never forces you to play like that. You can play as an honest, friendly trader very easily.

[(Anonymous)]

When I was playing GTA3 on a regular basis, I would sometimes be disturbed by how much I was enjoying it.

But for me, it was a catharsis thing. I'd spend a day at my crappy retail job having to smile when customers were treating me like I was basically a mobile piece of furniture, and then come home and beat the crap out a bunch of pixels for a bit.

That game probably saved my sanity. It definitely saved my job.