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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-03 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3531 ]


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kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Seemingly progressive things that actually sound skeevy

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-03 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Fighting cultural appropriation (not all of it, but some of it sounds just like an excuse for segregation) - worst in that line of thinking was actually people saying black people shouldn't have kids with white people cause they're the oppressors - and I was like, oh wow, horseshoe theory.
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Re: Seemingly progressive things that actually sound skeevy

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-04 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, mostly. Isn't multi-culturalism and the sharing of cultures a good thing? Some of the ways in which white people do that are absolutely racist (ignoring the colonial aspects of western interactions with India while donning Indian clothes for example). But that doesn't make the idea of sharing cultures a bad thing and I think discussions on cultural appropriation often go way too far.

Re: Seemingly progressive things that actually sound skeevy

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Cultural appropriation is definitely a thing but I'm so goddamn sick of white people taking it on themselves to call it out because 90% of the time they're fucking wrong.
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Re: Seemingly progressive things that actually sound skeevy

[personal profile] dancingmouse 2016-09-04 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
How so?

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Because they think it means doing anything from another culture. Which it doesn't. If it's not something sacred that shouldn't be done by outsiders, and if they're not using it to profit themselves at the other culture's expense, it's not cultural appropriation.

But white people will post pictures of like, a white person wearing a kimono and call it cultural appropriation. When the most likely reason a white person would wear a kimono is because they went to a Japanese festival where professionals who are Japanese will have booths set up where you pay them to dress you and explain the process. That's not appropriation, that's sharing.
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Re: NAYRT

[personal profile] dancingmouse 2016-09-04 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm a goof and misread your comment. I thought you were talking about white people being wrong when they called others out on "appropriation." I thought THAT one needed an explanation.

My bad.

I agree with this, by the way.
Edited 2016-09-04 02:55 (UTC)

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there are definitely cases where people wearing kimonos is culturally appropriative, though

I agree with the broad thrust of your argument but i'm just saying

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Not if for example POC wearing cheap knockoff Dirndl dresses or dumb cartoony viking costumes isn't as well.@

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Are cartoony Viking costumes actually part of a living, vibrant culture that's significant to anyone living besides metal fans and neo-pagans, though

Fuck off with this false equivalency bullshit

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2016-09-04 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
real Viking women did not wear iron bras