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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-09 06:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #3537 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3537 ⌋

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[Stephen King, BTK murderer and The Good Marriage]


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06. [WARNING for pedophilia, incest]

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[personal profile] fscom 2016-09-09 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
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[Stephen King, BTK murderer and The Good Marriage]

Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2016-09-09 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
In September, Kerri was with her children when she saw Stephen King give a TV interview.

King said he’d written a story inspired by her family years before, “A Good Marriage,” about discovering the monster in the house.

Furious, she broke the family’s nine-year silence and gave a newspaper interview, lashing out at King. Among people giving her rave reviews: Dad.
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All this time I have been apathetic about Stephen King. Read a few of his books, saw some of his movies.
Didn’t pay much attention to his drama. My respect for him as neutral as any other author who I’ve dabbled in.

But finding out that he had written a story based on the victims and families ...not a historical long gone mystery,
but a recent one still fresh in so many people’s minds.

Neutral feelings have turned to disgust. I have no more interest in any of his books or movies.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like an extreme reaction to only half the context.

King said that he felt inspired to write the story after the public outcry against Rader's wife, Paula, who had been married to him for almost thirty years yet seemed to have no knowledge of his crimes.


It seems like the inspiration was the people attacking Rader's wife, not to exploit Rader himself or his victims for profit. If context matters, it all does, just saying.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit don't let facts and context get in the way of righteously indignant rage!

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Disgust =/= righteously indignant rage

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yet he did not check in with the family or victims at all before writing about them. That is my focus of where I am disgusted.

Profit is obviously going to happen, it is Stephen King.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
He didn't write about them, dude. He created fictional characters that had nothing to do with real people other than using the idea of someone unknowingly living with a serial killer as inspiration.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Why should he? He's not writing about them, he's writing a story that loosely ties into the media's reaction to the wife not knowing about her husband being a killer.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I could see doing that if King was writing a biography or some other form of non-fiction, but fiction that's only inspired by real life events? Yeah, no. You don't have to "check in" with anyone to do that.

As for profit, you don't think it's a bit peculiar that out of all the non-fiction books written about BTK that are far more graphic and detailed, all the TV shows and movies she manages to lash out at a famous millionaire?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
By this logic we could also argue that, since he's Stephen King, he didn't need to cash in and therefore must have written the story purely "for the art".
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-09-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
After reading about it on wiki, it doesn't look like the story was about her family. It was about the BTK killer (and as the anon above me mentioned) his wife. Serial killers have been used as inspirations for horror for a very, very long time.

By the way, the BTK killer is both an interesting and boring serial killer to learn about.
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(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The BTK killer is her family, the BTK killer's wife is her mother. It has drawn from her family and King made that direct connection in a public morbid manner rather than leaving it at perhaps coincidental similarities.

He didn't check in with the family at all before making a book and movie on them, no kind of headsup, no consideration for the victims.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-09-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay. He still doesn't have to ask permission from her. He is a writer drawing from the story of a real life monster. Do you have any idea how many books and shows have been made on the BTK killer? Or how many fictionalized books/movies have been based on other serial killers?

And of course he is going to admit to the fact they are related. It'd be stupid of him to do otherwise. "Oh wow. I've never heard of this...BTK killer? Crazy that he also hid his secret double life from his family. Crazy that suffocation was also how people are killed in that story. What a co-ink-e-dink!"

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
He didn't base a book and movie on them. You are mad about a thing that did not happen.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
don't people do this all the time though? nearly every crime show on tv depicts cases that are "ripped from the headlines" (law and order in particular relies on it a lot). sometimes those cases are barely a year old, if that.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably but I don't watch Law and Order so won't be familiar with their disrespect. Stephen King I did formerly enjoy.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read the story and didn't know it was about BTK. The fact is, it could have been about any serial killer in which a family member finds out. Not a single part of the story screams 'This is BTK!' when it comes to the killer. That said, it is a very respectful story and is from the POV of the wife ie; we are made to be sympathetic towards her.

I do find it interesting that the family of BTK is upset that Stephen King wrote the fic. I would have thought it makes more sense for the families of the victims to be upset.

I personally find the film 'Wolf Creek' very offensive. This was based on the real life crimes of Ivan Milat and was just a 'run of the mill' horror film. No respect towards the victims of the terrible crimes at all. As other OPs have written in this thread, serial killers, terrible true crimes etc are constantly written about, in society. At least Stephen King flipped it and didn't make it disgusting but rather about the wife discovering proof of the crimes.

I would say read the short fic, OP and you'll see it's not disrespectful.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
oh sweet lawd jesus take your pearl-clutching ass back to tumblr

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This comment manages to include just about every phrase that irritates the crap out of me.

It's disgusting to be inspired by real-life events?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
If he had written about the actual people, in an exploitive or sensationalistic manner, without their knowledge, I could see your point, but this? I really can't.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
He should have kept his mouth shut about where the inspiration came from for his own sake, but artists do this all the time. All. The. Time. It is in our DNA as human beings. I can understand the family being angry about this and they have that right, but this will not be the first or last work of art to be inspired by them. It's going to happen. King's only fault was in being too candid about his inspiration. It's not like BTK is the only serial killer who hid under the cover of being a good husband and dad.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
BTK wasn't the only one, no, but he's probably the best known example. It would've been disingenuous for King to be vague about it or pretend it was merely a coincidence.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but if a reporter had made the connection and posed the question, I feel like it would have been worse for him to deny the fact that he took inspiration from the case.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't sound like the connection is obvious enough for a reporter to have made the connection.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm suddenly inspired to write a story about someone who can't find enough actually offensive things in the world and decides to hop on the manufactured controversy bandwagon.