[ SECRET POST #3537 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3537 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Art by: http://slashpalooza.tumblr.com/post/149564769513/thank-you-for-all-the-comments-havent-had-time]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Stephen King, BTK murderer and The Good Marriage]


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06. [WARNING for pedophilia, incest]

(Rick and Morty)


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07. [WARNING for rl death]


















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that gets me are the people who insist a show would be better if it had more diverse characters. No, a show would have more diverse characters if it had more diverse characters. Quality doesn't hinge on skin tone, what's between someone's legs or who they're attracted to.

[(Anonymous)]

S.A.
Signed a genderqueer nonwhite asexual, just in case I need to show my "cred" to have an opinion.

[ketita]

Yeah, this.
Sometimes people will rec stuff and basically go "this book has genderqueer characters!" "this show has strong women!" YES BUT WHAT ARE THESE THINGS ABOUT.
If I don't care for the story, I'm not going to magically care for it just because it has representation.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. Yeah. I have a friend that keeps reccing Steven Universe to me this way by talking about all the issues it goes over.

And I'm still going 'I have no idea what the plot of this thing is. Is there a plot? Why do you never talk about the plot?'

(I still haven't watched it and I don't care to, but I've never had something so relentlessly recced to me before based on the issues it apparently tackles and it's diversity without any mention of the plot.)

[ketita]

Yeah, I can see how that might happen. In case you wondered, part of the reason may be that it's pretty difficult to watch SU for the plot. What plot there is is interesting, but it's very slow-moving, and the series is mostly slice-of-life - until you get the occasional whammy episode.
It's not bad, though I'm not crazy about it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's basically a coming of age story with an intergalactic war going on in the background, but is almost relentless optimistic in spite of that. Also, there's lesbian space rocks and magic.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here, anon. I stare at SU ep summaries and writeups and I'm like, "what is this even all *about*?" I still have no desire to watch it.

[(Anonymous)]

Alien war veterans raise a little boy.

[(Anonymous)]

+5

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I watch stuff for the stories, not because of how diverse it is. Representation means nothing to me if it's not a story that I'm interested in in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

"Better" is so subjective as to be nearly useless, though. I generally assume it to be a shorthand for "I would like this thing better if -- "

To someone who likes spaceships, Star Wars will be "better" than Citizen Kane. To someone who likes monster hunters, Supernatural will be "better" than Masterpiece Theater. And to someone who likes diverse casts, Steven Universe will be "better" than Sherlock.

[(Anonymous)]

And not all narratives can be diverse. Diversity is great, and whereever the narrative allows for it then it should be a consideration, but you cannot always have a diverse cast in a narrative.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a point, though, at which a lack of diversity is ahistorical and/or indicates a failure of worldbuilding. Firefly would've been better if the Tams had been Asian. Harry Potter would've been better if it had had more than one gay character out of its cast of hundreds/been less relentlessly heteronormative in a world where--according to Rowling--being queer is no big deal. Westerns are better when they include black cowboys. Stories set in ancient Greece are better when they include m/m relationships. Etc.