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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-10 03:26 pm

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Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it's a state of mind.
You know you're one gender, and you're not bothered by your biological sex.
Like say you're a dude and your dick gets cut off. You don't suddenly start thinking you're a woman, because you know you're a dude.
Same principle with a trans person. You don't feel like a lesser man/woman even if you lack the "correct" plumbing.

Being a tomboy or a transvestite is different, because while you don't subscribe to societal gender expectations, you still know your gender.

'Performative gender stereotypes' can aid people, but they don't make or break them.

Idk, try trans forums. I'm sure someone could explain it better.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, this is such bullshit. It's amazing how deeply delusional you have to be to believe this.

"because while you don't subscribe to societal gender expectations, you still know your gender"

The fuck does that even mean? Gender IS societal gender expectations. There's no such thing as gender outside of that. You can't preach the "gender is a social construct" stuff then turn around and say "wait, actually its only a social construct for some people for the rest of us it's biological lol." It does not. make. any. fucking. sense.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I was trying to answer OP's question:

How does being trans* without dysphoria make sense?

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
But it doesn't make sense.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

hence why I suggested going to actual trans forums for better explanations

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No amount of explaining will cause it to suddenly make sense.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well that's a bold statement.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no.

Most trans people are VERY bothered by their wrong body. Critically bothered in fact, to the point of self harm, eating disorders, and sometimes depression leading to suicide. That is literally what dysphoria is. It's not "oh yeah I know I'm a man/woman ~on the inside~ so I'm ok with the fact that I don't even remotely resemble one".

No. No. A thousand times no. It's a physically painful, mentally devastating thing to have to contend with.

+10000000000000

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes this this all of this a trillion times THIS.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

goodness, I know that trans and dysphoria tend to go hand in hand
I was answering OP's question:

How does being trans* without dysphoria make sense?
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Re: Going Anon For This

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-10 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
What I do think, curiously, is that there are different levels of dysphoria.

For example, I'm pretty sure DO have it, but it's not well, overwhelming enough to make me want to pursue i, if that make sense. It's more like...I'm bothered by having breasts and having the ability to get pregnant up to the point where it's like a clothing label that keep bugging you (I.e. it's always there).

Like, I'd love a body without breast and menstruation - but I''m not bothered about clothes or pronouns.

I identify as female, cause for all intents and purposes I am one - but I wonder if there's more folks like me, and some of them fall into that nonbinary' identification or whatever.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a dysphoric female and while I definitely do not "identify" as a woman I have no plans on transitioning to live as a man. I have strongly considered transitioning, but after weighing the pros and the cons I ultimately decided against it. I hate the narrative that's being pushed where transition is the ONLY OPTION for people with sex dysphoria.
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Re: Going Anon For This

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-11 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's why I say I think there's gradations. I think for some it IS the only option, but maybe not for everyone.

Re: Going Anon For This

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to add though, that it manifests differently. Like some guys will be really horrified by their downstairs plumbing and not really give a shit about their chest, and some are the opposite.

It's like OCD is intrusive thoughts and intense urges to perform rituals, but the actual thoughts and rituals aren't the same from person to person.
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Re: Going Anon For This

[personal profile] grausam 2016-09-10 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
this.

plus, there are nonbinary genders, and agender people. I don't think most nonbinary people would want to have a perfectly "balanced" set of genitalia. once you accept that biological sex can have very little to do with one's gender, it's not that hard to imagine.