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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-18 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #3546 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3546 ⌋

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Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
A friend had to deal with a guy who got hired at a fast food place who refused to do any of the cooking and cleaning because "That's women's work."

He got grabbed by the back of the neck, marched over to the full dish sink, and barked at that it WAS his job and he'd damn well do it.

He quit the next day. But no, it's totally just isolated incidents of bad parenting.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what your example is, though. A single isolated anecdotal incident.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree or disagree: more men have that kind of attitude than women do.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And maybe it's time for women to stand up on our hind legs and start telling these guys to do their own shit, if it's that important. If you're a doormat, then people (male people and female people both) are going to walk all over you.

If you don't want to do his laundry, then don't. It is not that hard.

And if he doesn't want to shovel your walk or mow your yard, then I guess he doesn't have to do that either.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really. Since we're using anecdotal evidence here, I know quite a few women who flat out refuse to try and help with some heavy lifting around the house, not because they actually are too weak (I know a great example who is basically twice the size of her boyfriend and definitely not a delicate flower) but because "no, that's the man's job!".

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny how something like that is never couched in the language of "privilege"...

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

But it's not anecdotal, because it's the same old shit. It's bullshit to look at behaviour that devalues and stigmatizes "women's" work as below men, behaviour that's been studied and documented and fought against for hundreds of years, and claim it's just some weirdo and not actually about gender at all because we're all enlightened now. People don't change that quickly.

While we're being anecdotal, I work in an industry with traditionally male and female roles and I've seen women pull the same shit about "masculine" jobs they don't want to do. But people never say it outright, they just make it clear through their behaviour that the reason they should be given another task is they're just not "suited" to this one, look at what a terrrible job they're doing.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

(Anonymous) 2016-09-19 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It is anecdotal. Anon basically wrote "I know someone who knew someone who did this once" - and this specific example is the very definition of anecdotal evidence, no matter how much you want to pretend that it's somehow not.
And LOL "hundreds of years". You may want to research that again. It's a very popular myth that womens' work was seen as somehow lesser when it absolutely wasn't in a lot of cases.