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Comments

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

if you were in any way concerned about human rights

This sort of guilt-trip logic is really starting to wear thin. Can't you guys try something new?

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

What is your issue with that kind of argument

serious question

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

What has Clinton done for human rights? Serious question. I only know of some things she's done against human rights but nothing for. And her husband is accused of rape and she was very much a rape apologist about it. Although she was very vocal about chemically castrating the falsely accused college lacrosse players a few years back, so there's that.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the argument is particularly pro-Clinton. I mean, I don't know what anon is thinking, but it seems like what they're saying is that, no matter what you think of Clinton, Trump is worse on issues concerning human rights.

Is it just frustrating because you feel like it's a double standard? or what?

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not frustrated, just curious since there are Clinton supporters here and I don't know any. The Americans I know are all against a candidate, not for one of them. I thought AIRT was specifically talking about things Clinton has done or has promised and I'm curious what those things might be.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

It's smug, self-righteous, and preachy, but hey, that's a progressive for ya.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

So it seems like one of the things that's going on here is that anon thinks that it is just clearly true that there is a stark, moral different between Trump and Clinton with regards to human rights, and you think it is just clearly not the case. And so what anon means as moral conviction comes across as self-righteous to you? Is that a fair summary?

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

No, anon is making a moral judgment about people who don't agree with them. That's what comes across as self-righteous.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think there's any time when it's appropriate to make a moral judgment about people who disagree with you? Or is it just across-the-board self-righteous?

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

WTF

Please look up the definition of "self-righteous."

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

"Having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior."

I think what I'm trying to get at here is, how much of this has to do with your belief that their certainty is unfounded? Is it the "unfounded" part of the definition that rubs you the wrong, or the part where it has to do with morality?

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

*boggles* It has nothing to do with whether or not it's unfounded. It's the attitude of smugness and intolerance. Do you honestly not understand this?

Dictionary.com:
confident of one's own righteousness, especially when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

OK.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

Guilt-trip? Well, gee, I'm sorry for implying that human rights are kind of important for a presidential candidate to support.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

You're not. You're implying that only a person who didn't care about human rights would vote for Trump. Which is oversimplification and emotional manipulation.

Re: Presidential Debate Reactions

[(Anonymous)]

But that's...true...

No, seriously, Trump would be an absolute disaster for human rights, full stop. The only people that would vote for him must not care about them, either through malice or apathy. That's it. End of. It really is that simple.