[ SECRET POST #3567 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3567 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I'm fairly new to hockey (year two of actually paying attention from preseason through the finals) and I just stick to my circle. It's safer, though I do ask not to be included in the RPF group chat lol

Gender seems to play a role in how my interactions with other hockey fans go, but that's been my general fandom experience through the years. Gatekeepers vs creators and all that.

[diet_poison]

In what way does gender play a role?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Dudes tend to be "gatekeepers", this is fairly well discussed across all fandoms. Because I'm a woman, I'm seen as a "puck bunny" or my knowledge of someone's stupid fancy stats (don't get me started on how dumb the +/- thing is) is tested and tested, or I'm just relentlessly quizzed on a team or player's history to "prove myself". Or I'm just assumed to be an idiot and everything is mansplained to me. A statement like "I hate Patrick Kane, not because he's the top goal scorer in the league but because he got accused of rape and not one goddamn person on the Blackhawks organization did anything BECAUSE he's the top goal scorer in the league and he happens to be on their team." will lead to an endless "you don't understand, {xyz bs reasons why the case was dropped and why the front office said absolutely nothing about it}, you wouldn't get it because you're a woman and you're biased." rant.

When I talk about hockey with women, I never feel like any of that, even when I'm talking with women who have been fans for longer than I've been alive. Yeah they rib me because I tend to like expansion teams more than older, established ones, but it's never in a cruel way. I can actually admit that I don't know something and it's explained without being condescending. I can actually have a conversation about goalies without feeling like I needed to study for a week before having it.

Of course, this is not the case for everyone, "not all x" etc. I've sat next to some great male fans at games and I've had condescending conversations with seasoned female fans. But the general fandom trend of "men are gatekeepers, women are transformers/creators" seems to bleed into sports fandom as well.

[cloudtrader]

OMG, be my friend, please! Because yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think as a general rule, men are much more likely to reproduce toxic modes of sports fandom, which is really frustrating

[mishey22]

I made a joke the other day about turning Adam Larsson into Kyle Quincey without any tags or anything and man found it though I guess name searching and started explaining to me that Quincey wasn't replacing Larsson, he was more to replace blah blah blah and I thanked him for his input sarcastically and he replied with "You shouldn't reply with sarcasm after saying something stupid" and I was just like "Thanks again!"

It's the WORST, ugh.

[diet_poison]

this is fairly well discussed across all fandoms.

Most fandoms I'm in are mostly female. I'm not in any sports fandom. Sorry I didn't already know the answer to the question I asked. I asked specifically because I don't see gender play a huge role in the fandoms I'm in.

(I see men being gatekeepers in gaming fandom in general, but I don't really participate directly in that)