[ SECRET POST #3586 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #3586 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Katya Zamolodchikova/Rupaul's Drag Race ]


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10. [WARNING for discussion of underage (fictional) porn]


















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[fscom]

09. [SPOILERS for Stasis]
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[(Anonymous)]

I'm wondering now, are there games that do the reverse?

As in, there's a guy that seems like a crazy murderhobo and all he does is obsess over vengeance for some supposed killings that sound real generic and standard-fridging-for-this-kind-of-game that you never see on screen, and you're supposed to be sick and tired of him and how he goes overboard all the time but then afterward they reveal the deaths that were so much worse than you assumed and it breaks everyone's hearts?

Or, it turns out the unisex-name assumed-wife he's obsessing over vengeance for is a man?

spoilers for Zombieland

[(Anonymous)]

The one and only incidence of this I've seen in media is Tallahassee in Zombieland where people assume it's a dog. And are wrong.

Re: spoilers for Zombieland

[(Anonymous)]

*the former, not the latter. It's not his husband lol though that would've been a twist

Re: spoilers for Zombieland

[herpymcderp]

It's not his husband lol though

Fuck you, now I want this fic.

[ketita]

Or you have this guy that keeps going on about his VENGEANCE and his FAMILY, and then you find out that he's just a violent sunovabitch who figured out that people are way nicer about his violent murdering if they thing he has a reason for it.

[ariakas]

Ahahah that would be a brilliant subversion.

"Nah I just kill them for the money but everybody's willing to let you join their team and forgive you if you say they murdered your wife/daughter."

[(Anonymous)]

"I thought you said your wife's name was Lily."
"No no this is my second wife. I had two. Both died. Terribly tragic"

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Does Kilgrave count? He likes to claim the people he abused were actually abusing him.

Come to think of it, there's also a character in Kick-Ass who pretends he's an avenging hero when the reality is he found his old life boring.

[ariakas]

the deaths that were so much worse than you assumed and it breaks everyone's hearts

What like they were mutilated and/or raped?

This is pretty much de rigeur edgelord shit in comics and vidya.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, that's standard like you said.

I was meaning more like the guy's all "they murdered my wife and daughter" but it was part of a systematic genocide that slowly starved everyone to death and he went a little crazy after he had to eat them both after they died to live

[case]

I've played exactly one game where the last thing happens (well sort of, besides the unisex name thing). It's interactive fiction though.

http://www.ifwiki.org/index.php/Gun_Mute

"Step into the shoes of Mute Lawton, a lone cowboy who must stop an execution set to occur at noon by shooting his way past dangerous cyborgs and mutants in a post-apocalyptic western setting."

The execution he's stopping turns out to be that of his boyfriend.

[ariakas]

This is my least favourite trope of all time.

It is to the point where if the plot of a game/show/book is "dude's (female relative or significant other) is (kidnapped/killed) and now he must (save/avenge) her" I quite literally won't read/watch/play it, no matter how good or fun it supposedly is.

Of course if it's a subversion of that like John Wick out to save is fucking dog I will watch the hell out of it.

And before "wah wah what about the inverse you sexist": SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE INVERSE. Seriously. Ever. Anything. In which the focus of the plot not some inconsequential side story or one-off episodic event that will be reversed in the coming episodes to assure you that all is still heteronormatively correct in the world is that a woman saves/avenges a man. SERIOUSLY. NAME ONE. (And she has to succeed, none of this Salt-esque 'saving him would be emasculating for the audience, so he ded.')

[(Anonymous)]

It still remains to be seen but Dishonored 2 seems like it'll have some version of this when you play as Emily (after the first game fit this trope a little too well, though.)

I think Fallout 4 might have this when you play as a female character? But I haven't played it, so idk...

There are several horror games with mothers searching for their sons as well.

[ariakas]

Oh lol Dishonor took one look at the save/avenge trope and was all WHY NOT BOTH?!?

Vague spoilers for Fallout 4, I guess, but no it doesn't. (Hard spoilers if I tell you why, though.)

But do they succeed? And is one of them ever a teenager or - god forbid - an adult male?

[(Anonymous)]

Kill la Kill, maybe? Teenage girl wants to avenge her father and she succeeds in the end. Maybe too goofy for what you are looking for, though?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Kill Bill has a woman going on a murderous rampage to avenge her husband and child.

[ariakas]

I give Kill Bill part marks because she never mentions the guy, just her kid. And her kid is female.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I once saw a platformer on Steam where your husband is horribly murdered in the trailer and you become a werewolf and seek revenge. The reviews were pretty mixed.

[(Anonymous)]

SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE INVERSE.

Kill Bill, as the above anon already mentioned.

Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky dedicates a large portion of the plot of the second installment to the heroine trying to get her boyfriend back from the sinister organization that's been using him as a puppet. (She succeeds.)

The entire storyline of the Alexander raids in Final Fantasy XIV. Mide taught the goblins how to summon Alexander in the first place in the hopes of rescuing her lover, who was absorbed by its core. The ending doesn't explicitly say what happened but it is highly implied that she succeeds.

The plot of Final Fantasy X-2 is set into motion by Yuna trying to find a way to bring Tidus back. She succeeds if the player achieves a certain level of completion of various game events.

Saving her parents and turning them human again is a large part of Chihiro's motivation in Spirited Away.

The Secret of NIMH is all about a mother mouse trying to find a way to help her sick son.

The plot of Orange is all about a girl trying to prevent a boy from committing suicide after receiving letters from herself from ten years in the future.

I can't recall the title because I read it probably 15 years ago, but I distinctly remember a YA novel that was about a female ham radio operator trying to find and get help to her male friend who was injured and lost in the woods.

Mariel of Redwall is about a mouse girl trying to rescue her father from an evil pirate.

Kill la Kill stars a teenage girl on a quest to find her father's killer.

While it's not the entire plot, Tales of Berseria's protagonist is a woman who wants to avenge the murder of her little brother.

The latter part of Slayers Next involves Lina trying to save her love interest Gourry.

Pick a magical girl series, any magical girl series and I can almost guarantee you that the plot will involve the heroine rescuing her love interest at least once during the course of the series.

That's just what I can think of off the top of my head out of things I've read/watched/played. It's not as common a trope as "man saves/avenges woman," no, but it's hardly a non-existent one.

[ariakas]

Is it weird that this is virtually all children's stuff/YA and anime/JRPGs? Or is that just the media you usually consume?

[(Anonymous)]

Trails in the Sky was awesome for that. Powerful heroine with her own flaws and vulnerabilities that ends up kicking everybody's butt while growing as a character.

[(Anonymous)]

A bit part of Final Fantasy XII is Ashe avenging her husband and taking back her kingdom.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, Samurai Girl, which is awful (the book, anyway) but plays the avenging part straight.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution (spoiler)

[cbrachyrhynchos]

One of the better parts of the game is the white-room scene where the girlfriend fridged in the prologue who becomes the damsel in distress in Act 2 turns out to be neither.

(Similarly, the narrative twist in Bastion.)