[ SECRET POST #3588 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3588 ⌋

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Comments

Based on #3

[(Anonymous)]

What universes have you realized are actually pretty dark?

Bonus if it's something fans typically don't acknowledge, or if it's a comedy, played for laughs.

Re: Based on #3

[thedarksideofprocyon]

Going from memory, the Harry Potter universe is actually pretty dark in hindsight, especially around the treatment of magical creatures and Muggles and how ineffectual a lot of the wizarding leadership was.

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[(Anonymous)]

Twin comments! LOL.

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[morieris]

I've been reading the Headscratchers page on TV tropes for a few days now and yeah...

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[(Anonymous)]

Harry Potter. I know people aren't serious when they say they wish HPverse were real, but seriously, why the would you want it to be? The Ministry of Magic was corrupt as hell. (Although I guess post-DH it wouldn't have been, with Kingsley fixing things up.) Even Hogwarts had a lot of dark layers; I mean, a group of eleven year old kids almost got eaten by a three headed dog because they opened the wrong door. (Right? It's been a while since I've re-read the books.) Even the Triwizard Tournament was apparently cancelled because kids kept getting killed every time one took place.

Re: Based on #3

[philstar22]

This.

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[morieris]

Honestly, Magic would be enough of an incentive to deal with the rest of the admittedly dangerous nonsense. If I can get shot at random in America, I'd at least like to be able to do magic.

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[(Anonymous)]

Hogwarts is a TERRIBLE SCHOOL. For all the danger the kids are put into - from Voldemort to gym class with 11-year-olds on flying broomsticks - fuck if I would ever let my kid attend.

Re: Based on #3

[(Anonymous)]

Pawnee from Parks and Recreation seems pretty damned screwed up, although to be fair, the entire point seems to be that it is, Leslie's just earnest enough to overlook it. (And I do think every town has a bit of Pawnee to it, so there is that. My town is totally Pawnee at times.)

Re: Based on #3

[philstar22]

Tolkien is pretty dark if you think about it. No matter how many victories the good guys have, ultimately evil will win until the end of the world, and Melkor's influence remains even after he's gone. That's pretty depressing to me.

I'd say any series with time travel is dark if you think about it. Take Doctor Who. The Doctor won't be around forever, and it seems like he's the only one protecting the universe. At any time someone can go back in time and destroy history. That's pretty grim to me. I mean, what happens in Turn Left will happen eventually when the Doctor is dead.

Star Wars is kind of depressing now that the Force Awakens exists. All the things won in the OT don't matter. Another empire has risen up to take the place of the old one. That's pretty dark.

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[(Anonymous)]

I also read somewhere that in TW, at least (if you consider that canonically consistent with DW), it's canon that the afterlife is basically just knowing there's something coming after you, but not what. I'm not sure that's true, I don't remember that being mentioned... if it is, though, talk about grim!

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed on TFA essentially making tge original trilogy seem like a false victory. Plus, I don't really trust the writers ofvthe new trilogy to be able to tie the storylines together in a way that gives meaning to the previous movies. I'm fully expecting the new trilogy to end up seeming like the most important story in the series, and ine that could have happened without the prior events of the original films. And that's going to be the worst.

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[sockes]

On the other hand, with Dr Who, isn't it basically impossible for there to be a time where the Doctor can't go? So even if he died, a younger version of him would still be around to save the day, theoretically.

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[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Middle-Earth sounds like a setting that even the times of peace seem to suffer from a vague background threat that keeps everyone on edge.

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[eleganceliberty]

Bedrock in the current Flintstones comic, full stop.

Aside from being the best comic you're not reading right now, Mark Russell's portrayal of Bedrock is incredibly dark and cynical (and perhaps even sinister), hiding beneath the brightly colored veneer of the whole setting. But it's portrayed in such a sharp, darkly comedic way that you don't really realize it at first, until something completely catches you off-guard.

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[(Anonymous)]

One Piece.

Anyone who's never read it thinks it's a goofy shounen manga about pirates. But then you dig deep and have to consider that the world is run by a protected 1% who consider themselves gods and dictate the government and world-level politics, while the Marines are beholden to anything the government says and will turn a blind eye to corruption, slavery, and genocide for the sake of protecting the status quo. Yep, full-on slavery. Also racism against fishmen, giants, etc, torture, medical experimentation, government secret forces, and let's not even start with everything about Donquixote Doflamingo. And nothing is black and white, both the law and the pirates are many shades of gray and no one is perfect.

Reasons why this manga is my favorite series of all time.

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[(Anonymous)]

Obligatory English (or Cabot Cove) murder mystery series. That's a lot of people to die in such a teeny town.

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[(Anonymous)]

Quiet English villages are the most dangerous places to live, seriously.

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[(Anonymous)]

An American equivalent would be the Fear Street book series that was popular in the 90s. It was set in a small New England town, and their high school must have had more murders per year than the roughest inner city schools.

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[(Anonymous)]

The first seasons of Red Dwarf

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[otakugal15]

Pokemon. I know people shit all over that site (understandably, mind) but reading that TVTropes page of Nightmare Fuel for Pokemon makes it a bit dark around the edges.

ESPECIALLY SINCE ONE OF THE NEW STARTERS BECOMES A GHOST TYPE AT STAGE 3. IT'S FROSLASS ALL OVER AGAIN. D8

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[caerbannog]

I can't find the nightmare fuel for the new starter on the tropes sites, can you point me?

Maybe I can grow to like this owl thing.

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[(Anonymous)]

Pokemon. Sentient creatures routinely captured and forced to fight each other for no end other than the trainers' egos? 10 year olds allowed to essentially leave home and wander the world by themselves, having to protect themselves from dangerous animals as well as the predatory agents of sinister organisations, and basically having their fate be decided by the kindness of whoever they meet first on their journey? WHO WOULD ORGANISE THEIR SOCIETY LIKE THIS????

Steven Universe

[(Anonymous)]

Though they don't really try to hide it, it's just subtle considering it's an otherwise cheery, brightly-colored kids' show about a goofy, overweight little boy that likes to sing and go on magical space adventures. They've tackled war and genocide, PTSD, jealousy, unrequited love, failure, living up to others' expectations, lesbian romance, blended families, a pretty jarring rape metaphor, being born "defective," abusive relationships, Mengele-type corpse mutilation experiments... I'm constantly surprised by where it goes.

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[caerbannog]

I read a right up on why the Pern world was actually really dark and backwards one time. Nodded a lot. Damned if I can find it again.