fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #3588 ]

[ SECRET POST #3588 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3588 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.

__________________________________________________

02.

__________________________________________________

03.

__________________________________________________

04.

__________________________________________________

05.

__________________________________________________

06.

__________________________________________________

07.

__________________________________________________

08.

__________________________________________________

09.

__________________________________________________

10.

__________________________________________________

11.

Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 62 secrets from Secret Submission Post #513.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

If there is both a staircase and an escalator, people who want to walk should use the stairs and leave the escalator to those who want or need to stand.

Having bikes on the road is dangerous. There should be designated bike lanes, and if not bike riders should stay on the sidewalk or at the very edge of the road where cars won't go. Bikes are not cars and cannot go the speed limit, they do not belong on the road. Yes, drivers should pay attention to bikers. But bikers shouldn't be there in the first place.

Yes, I realize that Walmart and similar stores do awful things. But I will continue to shop there. I may not be poor, but I don't have a lot of money, and that little bit of savings does make a difference. Not everyone can afford to be entirely ethical in their purchases.

Bikes are classified as vehicles, though. They have no business taking up the sidewalk. There really ought to be more bike lanes.

I'd rather bikes just be confined to bike paths out of sight of everything. It's cool that you want to exercise, but if you're on the sidewalk you're gonna hit someone, and if you're on the road you're just in the fucking way.

It's cool that you want to exercise

There's one of the differences between the US and Europe. Over here it's a perfectly valid form of commute. Certainly more economic in a city than a car is.

European cities are more narrow and closed in, though. Over here the closest thing is Boston and it's impossible to drive there.

Bike lanes in my city are on streets where there's an extra half-lane of width. If you can't pass safely with that much space, how are you going to handle the multi-lane intersections?

Because most cyclists in my area are entitled morons who don't use bike lanes, which in any case could be better put to use accommodating traffic and cutting down on congestion -- or at the very least, used to park vehicles.

Again, empirically false. A long-standing paradox that we've known about since the 1950s is that adding more lanes actually increases congestion. And there's a multi-lane through street only a block away from the streets with bike lanes. Why not take those designated through streets?

And there's already a lane of parking on the bike-lane streets which is at 50% capacity three blocks out from the city center. Outside of the big tourist weekends, we don't more parking on those streets.

"Why not take those designated through streets?"

Oh, gee, I dunno. Probably because my city is a nightmare world of one-way streets that makes it impossible to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time as it is? The streets are super-narrow, too, so there's not enough room for vehicle traffic AND bike lanes AND parking (parking is a serious issue in my city -- it's expensive and hard to find.)

So, your argument is that because your city planners have problems designing for multiple transportation modes, that no city should design for multiple transportation modes?

Encouraging multiple modes (including bikes and public transportation) tends to decrease congestion in the long run. Car transportation just doesn't scale well with either commercial or residential density.

No. My argument is fuck cyclists. We put in a streetcar just recently and it hasn't fucked up traffic much at all. Cyclists are a danger to themselves, others, and insurance premiums.

My argument is fuck cyclists.

So, because you lack the common sense to use designated through streets, the ability to follow lane markers when it comes to bike routes, and the skill to pass safely where there's room to do so, (and there almost always is), other law-abiding people entitled to use the road should be "fucked?"

That's a pretty cool jetpack you've got. Do you use it for anything other than jumping to conclusions?

Then explain how in the world you would come into conflict with a cyclist following the rules of the road operating on a designated bike route. The only reason a driver would come within arm's length of my bike is if they cross a white line, either through intent or negligence.

And on those parts that don't have a designated bike lane, you're not going to be cornering around narrow squares with heavy pedestrian traffic at high speed anyway.

Edited 2016-10-31 00:30 (UTC)

I've never ever seen a cyclist follow the rules of the road. I'm sure they exist, but most of them are entitled, self-righteous douches who think doing 10mph in a 50 zone without even using hand signals is totally okay.

BTW you're doing a real good job of the self-righteous bit.

Edited 2016-10-31 00:33 (UTC)

I've never ever seen a cyclist follow the rules of the road.

Pull the other one, it has bells attached.

BTW you're doing a real good job of the self-righteous bit.

You're the one saying I should be "fucked" for using legally designated signals, right-of-way, and lane widths that in no way inhibit the ability of other people to pass at legal speeds. If that's not adequate, then you're likely a threat to pedestrians and carriage traffic as well.

Re: Dumb opinions

dethtoll - 2016-10-31 00:43 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Dumb opinions

cbrachyrhynchos - 2016-10-31 01:16 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Dumb opinions

dethtoll - 2016-10-31 01:20 (UTC) - Expand

Preach it with Walmart... My aunt once lectured me about shopping there and I told her bluntly that while I didn't agree with their business practices, I also was too broke to turn down low prices. I also got revenge by pointing out that she gave her business to companies who also had poor practices, the hypocrite.

Having bikes on the road is dangerous.

Empirically wrong. Many roads can accommodate mixed traffic as long as no one is being an asshole. Cyclists are safest following the rules of the road instead of awkwardly using sidewalks, which are shit in the United States for anything with wheels. And there's a spectacularly weird double-standard when it comes to bikes vs. busses, or bikes vs. horses, both of which are on the roads in my city and are much harder to get around than a cyclist.

as long as no one is being an asshole

And therein lies the problem. For every cyclist who can easily manage traffic and is respectful to drivers, there's five of them going 3 MPH refusing to signal and screaming SHARE THE ROAD. But if they cut in front of us and get hit and die we're the ones who get in trouble.

I think the "as long as they follow the rules" is the main problem. The city where I live has very few bike lanes and when they're on the street, cyclists constantly ignore even the most basic rules like stopping at a damn red light.

Running lights is dumb. However the solution is better education and enforcement rather than the righteous road rage advocated by many car advocates.

Oh yes, absolutely.

Bikes on bike lanes and sidewalks are more dangerous than bikes on the road. So nope. The roads are for everyone. That includes bikes, cars and pedestrians.

How the fuck are bike lanes dangerous? We lose valuable parking and traffic lanes just for cyclists and now you're telling me "they're more dangerous" and cyclists should be permitted to ride in the middle of the road putting everyone's safety at risk?

Holy entitlement. This is why nobody likes cyclists.

Bikes need to stay off sidewalks unless they are ridden by children. They are dangerous for pedestrians and I'm glad it's illegal in my city to ride a bike on the sidewalk if you're over the age of 12. I say that as someone who mostly drives.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only