[ SECRET POST #472 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #472 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 258 secrets from Secret Submission Post #068.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 (just edited to say "dumber?" what?) - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ], [ 1 - what ], [ 1 - jesus get help ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[srsfnbsns.livejournal.com]

16. I feel it's the opposite. Fandom is the safe place that people explore this stuff. It may turn out later that these girls who want to be boys or girls who think that they're lesbians are just your average straight girl, but at least they got it off their chest in fandom instead of having some sort of major identity crisis. Fandom is the place where they feel comfortable enough to explore it.

The breeder shit on the other hand. Got no excuse for that. I don't care for children either but hating them is too extreme. I'm just gonna blame it on people not growing up. They hate kids because they still are kids in their heads.

Random: What's with all the Honeydew Syndrome secrets lately? Apparently I'm either missing the greatest thing ever or something to be loathed.

[cyanglow]

They hate kids because they still are kids in their heads.

I can't believe some hardcore CFer hasn't tried ripping into you over that yet. That said, I agree with you 100%.

[srsfnbsns.livejournal.com]

Mwa ha ha ha! Yeah. Guess I'm easy to overlook.

But I feel that it's true. How many calm, mature hardcore CFers do you ever see? None. Notice that they're always coming up with stories about how they pwn "crotchdroppings" and their "moos." Notice how they rail about little kids getting the good toys or ruining the fun or whatever. Hardcore CFers are just big fucking babies who can't grow the fuck up, so they lash out at the real kids who are perfectly within their rights to be kids. It's a sad sad state of the world when "adults" are so damn childish.

[cyanglow]

Truer words are hard to find. *tips hat*

Long post!

[pacificpikachu.livejournal.com]

I consider myself a reasonably calm, mature hardcore CFer. I'm definitely hardcore in some sense of the word (I mean, I believe that the extinction of the human race by simply ceasing to reproduce would be the most beautiful ending of humanity possible), and I'm downright terrified of babies to the point where I have to quietly and discreetly leave the room if a baby or pregnant woman is too close, but I don't mind most kids and don't call them names.

Sure, I'm annoyed if they're acting like utter brats (but who ISN'T annoyed at them at that point?), but for the most part? Kids are okay. Not for me, as I'm morally opposed to bringing more humans into the already overpopulated earth, but they're okay. :) I don't usually judge other people for having them, as long as they treat them well and truly love them. I'm just...deathly afraid of babies and pregnancy. It's like someone being afraid of spiders, snakes, or mice--albeit a bit more irrational. I do realize it's irrational, but I can't help it. That's just how I've been since I was young.

I've been a member of cf_hardcore for a long time now, and I'm a bit torn on it--on one hand, I roll my eyes at the dumb stories some people tell and how completely ridiculous it gets at times, but on the other hand, there are a lot of nice, rational people on there who really just don't want to be judged for the choices we make. (Many of these posts are f-locked.) It's surprising how defensive or weird towards you people can act when you simply say, "Oh, I don't plan on having kids in the future," even if you're completely polite when saying it and only mention it when asked. Not to mention trying to get sterilized, which is nearly impossible for a CF woman under the age of, say, forty--even for people with painful, recurrent issues like PCOS.

*Shrug* CFers are like any other group, I suppose--the super-outspoken ones get all the glory, while we quieter ones just kind of sit around in back and whistle to ourselves. Sorry for rambling at you so long! I just felt I should say something so you know we aren't all rabid. :) I can see where you would get that impression, though.

Re: Long post!

[srsfnbsns.livejournal.com]

I'm one of those people who doesn't plan on reproducing but I'd rather call myself a barren woman than say that I was "child free". Rather than get roped in with the radical extreme, I just avoid the term all together.

Re: Long post!

[pacificpikachu.livejournal.com]

That's a wise choice, and I certainly respect that. :)

Re: Long post!

[cyanglow]

Hey I hope you don't mind me butting in with my insomnia and all. But yeah, I won't be bringing any more human life into this world either. I took medical steps toward making that impossible. And I do honestly respect those who choose not to reproduce. But I do have a problem with people who rag on those who make different choices. (I have a younger sibling who will someday have kids. Do I choose to hate her for that? Hell no, she's my kid sister.)

The other problem I have here is equating babies and pregnant women with spiders and snakes. If you do honestly have this phobia, please seek counseling. I'm not trying to be a dick, but babies and pregnant women can not be (and are not going to be) eliminated by pest control or animal control methods. In order to live in society, you need to be able to handle the presence of both. You DON'T HAVE TO want to contribute to human population, but your own phobias will not stop it from going on. Those phobias will only make your life harder.

TL;DR: They're just babies. They can't hurt you! :)

Re: Long post!

[pacificpikachu.livejournal.com]

I do my very best to be as respectful as possible towards those people who do wish to be parents. :) The only people I have a real issue with are those who have children simply because it's part of the life script and then don't treat them right. It disgusts me when people bring children into this life, only to neglect and hurt them... I do, however, hope this sickens everyone. (To their credit, I have NEVER seen cf_hardcore condoning hurting children or children being harmed. Granted, I don't watch the community so I only catch what's going on every now and then, but if something horrible happens to a child, they always immediately feel terrible for the child and get angry at whoever is responsible.) But if people truly, really want kids and feel like they can give their kids a happy life? I think that's great for them, and I wish them the best. I am morally opposed to it, but I cannot force my morals on anyone.

See, I'm more reasonable than that. I don't expect anyone to eliminate pregnant women and babies, and it's fine that they're out there. I simply don't wish to be in the presence of them for extended periods of time. If I pass them in the hall, or they walk by? No problem. It's just when I'm in a situation where I have to be with them for an extended time that it bothers me, and then I just quietly leave. If I can't leave for some reason, I just look away. The only time just looking away doesn't do me any good is if they're crying, which is when I generally DO definitely leave, or at least cover my ears. The sound just stresses me out like nothing else.

Counseling would be more of an option if this wasn't so much of a moral thing for me, you see. While I try my best to be respectful of people who choose to be parents, I am (at the same time) morally opposed to people bringing more lives into the world. I think the amount of resources the ever-growing population of humans use is unfair to non-human animals that suffer horrifically and go extinct (not to mention meat animals and such--have you ever seen the documentary Earthlings? I highly recommend it), and also to humanity itself--every day, 40,000 children starve to death, and I...have trouble with the fact that here people just have their children as though nothing is wrong. Why bring more children into the world when there are so many out there suffering? What about them? Do they somehow matter less because we can't see them? I just can't justify that in my mind. Those children who already exist deserve to be saved and helped; when they are safe and happy, only then do I feel people should think about having their own children. I'm a bit too idealistic for my own good, I guess.

In short, I'm just a weird person, morally. I suppose I just feel too strongly for animals and people in third-world countries. I know the famine and disease in, say, Africa and other poor places is not exactly our fault, but at the same time it pains me when people choose to have their own genetic children at the expense of thousands of pre-existing ones. :/ It's just...so sad to me. Don't even get me started on what humanity does to animals.

(Sorry, again, to make this so long! I know it contradicts itself, too--I've almost got two different sides of me on this whole thing, and it's a matter of keeping a balance between my strange ideals and the real world. Real world = I'm respectful of people for their decisions, and think it's great if people bring children into the world if they really want them and love them; Ideally = I think it is morally wrong to bring children into the world, due to the human treatment of the earth and the state of other humans that already exist on the planet and deserve better.)