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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-01 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3651 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3651 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
And of course the other pairings being so low has nothing to do with how Kanera shippers harass else for being problematic?

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yup that's how I translated it too. I think OP accidentally a word or two.
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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2017-01-01 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Aurabesh translation please?

(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
In the first comment.
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[personal profile] aestivalis 2017-01-01 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I know nothing about the fandom in question, but I find this issue super relatable. Sure, Nominated Pairing X or Nominated Fandom Y might be within the guidelines of a specific fandom challenge, but if it's not in the spirit of a challenge I'm always a little bit disappointed.

Sometimes you can't predict exactly how a fandom is going to turn out, and that's understandable. Yuri on Ice qualified for Yuletide and that was appropriate back during sign-ups but was vastly inapprorpiate by the time of reveals—but that's okay because no one could have been entirely sure how YOI was going to turn out at that point.

On the other hand, people using something like Yuletide to write, say, Captain America fic?* Maybe they can wiggle it past the rules, but it just... seems kind of crass somehow.

*note: used this example because Marvel has enough tags on AO3 that you could probably bend the rules this way. I have no idea if anyone wrote Cap America fic for Yuletide, this isn't commentary on any specific person x(

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's perfectly within the spirit of a challenge that is not about rare for-the-fandom pairs but will often let in pretty much any pairing from smaller fandoms. I would kill to have hundreds of fics to choose from for some of my pairings but I'm not petty enough to want to disqualify something that was nominated in good faith.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The challenge was specifically for rare for-the-fandom pairs though.
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[personal profile] aestivalis 2017-01-02 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for responding to you so late, anon. Anyway though, I one hundred percent agree with you about not wanting to disqualify something that was nominated in good faith, and I'm sorry if my comment didn't reflect that. Honestly, as long as the rules are being followed I wouldn't ever be in favour of disqualifying anything—it's the very nature of any fandom challenge with some sort of inclusion cut-off that you're always going to end up with material that's just kissing that cut-off point. There's just no avoiding that.

I guess that's what I mean when I say I can relate to the sense of disappointment, though. Juggernaut Pairing X might be well within the rules, and I would never actually advocate expelling it from the challenge, but for me at least? That just isn't what I'm looking for when I sign up to that kind of exchange, you know? So yeah. Disappointment.

But when it comes down to it, just volunteer to write for the things you're interested in, asking for the things you'd like to read, and just let other folks do what they're gonna do. It's definitely not worth fighting over, imo.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree but I also think there's a place for some bigger rare pairs. It's hard to match people with the rarest pairings so having one pairing that doesn't have much fic in terms of Star Wars total but it more likely to have a few writers is a good safety-net. I just wish authors would try their hands at some of the rarer pairings first. It really depends on the prompts though. Some pairings need to be sold for others to see it, and there's at least some canon for this pairing.

There were still a bunch of super rare pairings written and there was an effort to write 2 fics for everyone, which upped the chances of rare pairs getting written, so I think the exchange still accomplished what it set out to do.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god I feel you on this. Like, my newish fandom got nominated for Yuletide and the majority of the fics that came out for it were for the canon, major pairing of the series. I was so fucking disappointed. -__-

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
The Star Wars Rare Pair Exchange had at least one pairing with over 500 fics, so I think it's just a bad example all around. :/

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
I know there was one border case that the mod made a post on, stating that it was under 500 when it was nominated so she would let it in. I thought the exchange was actually fairly well run and there were a lot of really tiny pairings nominated.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-02 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
OP I did think it was very well run and I think the mod did an excellent job. And I think yes, by the letter of the rules the mod did perfect.

By the spirit, the shippers should have been classy and not nominated. And especially not bragged about the fact that they were able to qualify because it was by ao3 numbers.