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After playing FFXV, I can't even begin to understand the people who stan for Lunafreya and think she's the greatest character ever, so pure and wonderful and that romance was so great. I won't go into this for spoilery reasons but what the hell.
Same thing with FFVIII - I can only shake my head at anyone who thinks the Rinoa/Squall romance was anything else than terribly written at best and creepy as hell at worst.

It's Final Fantasy. One of the best-written romantic relationships in the series involves a man who keeps his girlfriend's preserved corpse in his basement. Standards are pretty low.

which final fantasy couple are you referring to?

Anyway the best romances are Celes/Locke, Cloud/Aeris, or Zidane/Garnet so

Celes/Locke. Remember the dead girl in Locke's basement who he's trying to revive with Phoenix?

oh psssh don't care, Locke is so fuckable

Ayrt

Oh hell, yes, I almost forgot about that. That was about as tragic as it was creepy.

Cindy is clearly XV Best Girl, and that's all I have to say on that.

I think Iris might have potential after the timeskip, but I havn't got to that yet.

Maybe I just like high energy chicks, which makes Luna of zero interest to me.

Edited 2017-01-05 07:48 (UTC)

I mean, I get why people migth be a bit exasperated with Cindy's design but on the other hand, the guys are just as much walking fanservice devices - I mean, Gladiolus and his missing shirt? Really?

I think Iris is a bit too clingy for my taste - reminded me of Selphie quite a bit and that girl annoyed the hell out of me.

Luna being bland is honestly the least of my concern. I just think the "relationship" between her and Noctis s super creepy considering the background information you get throughout the game.

I can agree on Rinoa/Squall, though conversely I also think the haters of the pairing - especially the haters of Rinoa - are also ridiculous. She's not absolutely terrible, though I still don't think she and Squall would work out long-term.

AYRT

For me, it's less that I hate Rinoa (I find her mildly obnoxious but it's still alright, most charater in VIII are a bit obnoxious) but more that the whole relationship seems so creepily forced upon Squall. Every single one of his so called friends plus Rinoa herself to a certain extent try to pressure him into that relationship even though there is no apparent interest from his side at all.

And then there comes the weird brainwash-y break between disc 3 and 4 where he goes from "Meh I don't particularly care" to "I am insanely obsessed with her" without any clear motivation. I've read the theory that Rinoa may have involuntarily influenced this 180 turn with her sorceress' powers (the whole knight/sorceress bond etc.), and I really want to believe in this because otherwise, it's just such bad writing it's almost physically painful.

Yeah, that is the biggest problem with canon, is that sudden turnaround. I am okay with the sorceress theory, but I don't think Rinoa would have done it deliberately.

I guess I come from my POV because I spent time reading slash fanfic for a while before I played the game and found Rinoa nowhere near as bad as even the mild versions I'd run across up until then.

I agree - I can actually see her powers doing it subconsciously out of her desire for that relationship she seems to idealise so much and out of the whole apparent necessity for a sorceress to have her knight.

The way Rinoa is vilified in fanfics is pretty ridiculous, absolutely.

...Do either of you know how people with abandonment issues work? Because they actually got the relationship spot-on. It's not got a damn thing to do with powers, it's got everything to do with Squall being severely fucked up and Rinoa being the only one from a healthy enough standpoint to notice.

Lol no, that's not even close to accurate and if you paid any attention to what happens in the game, you'd have noticed. And Rinoa with a healthy standpoint? You mean the chick who thought enlisting mercenaries to support her little rebel group in a coup against her own father was a great idea?

And even if your assessment was accurate, that only makes her insistence to insert her in his life and pressure him into a relationship only more creepy instead of less because that would mean she intentionally manipulated Squall in his fucked up state of mind.

nyart

I'm kinda amused at you jumping directly to "she's intentionally manipulating him" when - Hanlon's Razor! - it's more likely she just noticed something was off and thought her pushing was genuine help. I mean, this here?

You mean the chick who thought enlisting mercenaries to support her little rebel group in a coup against her own father was a great idea?

Yeah, that's a sign of being naive/stupid, not being mentally unhealthy. Come one, no need to overstate things when there's already plenty of existing faults in the character (and game in general).

I'm not jumping to anything. I disagree that she is such a terrible character, but AIRT implied that Rinoa did it all on purpose with the knowledge that Squall was mentally unstable.
If that's so: The way it was written - which was Rinoa being incredibly clingy and ultimately even enlisting Squall's friends to basically help her with her quest of pressuring him into a relationship with her - can, in my opinion, not be read as anything else than intentional manipulation. (Note that I don't agree with AIRT so I don't think it's this bad.)

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