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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-04 06:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3654 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3654 ⌋

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Re: bad fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
There were at least a few people in The X-Files fandom who really disliked Scully, and saw her as this nagging shrew. Usually these were people who either shipped Mulder with Krycek, wanted Mulder for themselves, or both.

And okay, it's not like Scully was perfect. After everything she and Mulder saw, her refusal to believe could sometimes come off as irrational obstinate. But that was clearly down to the writers being unwilling to jeopardize the stable working dynamic between the leads, in which she was a skeptic and he was a believer.

It always just seemed like people who hated Scully thought she ought to have devoted herself to being Mulder's professional cheerleader or something.
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Re: bad fandom opinions

[personal profile] a_potato 2017-01-05 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I am here to say, in my own completely irrational way:

Fuck those people. Fuck 'em. Scully was awesome, and her skepticism, although often unwarranted, was exactly what Mulder needed to balance him out -- just as his credulity was what she needed. They were positively beautiful together.

...huh, I guess I have a character for the "what character will you defend with every breath" thread, after all.

Re: bad fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck those people. Fuck 'em. Scully was awesome, and her skepticism, although often unwarranted, was exactly what Mulder needed to balance him out -- just as his credulity was what she needed. They were positively beautiful together.

Hahaha! Truth be told, I couldn't agree more.

Personally, it didn't even bother me that Scully continued to be a skeptic after everything she'd seen. Because that was what was needed. I mean, I think if the writers had been better there would have been a more perceptible shift from, "nonbeliever Scully" to "still very skeptical and also freaked out by this shit" Scully, to "Okay, all this weird shit is happening but we still need to nail it down with some science otherwise we're no wiser than we were before we witnessed it" Scully. But the writers were never very good at writing the characters emotions and psyches with a consistent degree of complexity, which led to Scully's skepticism feeling somewhat unchanging throughout. (Similar to how the writers would make inroads to Mulder coping with and moving past some of his early trauma, only to completely negate any such progress a couple of episodes later.)

Where am I going with this? I don't know. Scully was awesome. The writers sometimes sucked. Her skepticism was necessary, and also I always thought the fact that she continued to insist on figuring out how to explain things with science was one of the strongest parts of her character. It seemed like a difficult and largely thankless job, and she was brave to keep at it.
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Re: bad fandom opinions

[personal profile] a_potato 2017-01-05 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'll preface this by saying that I didn't like season eight and checked out pretty early into it. However, due to the fact that she abruptly made the switch to believer when Doggett came along, I've long thought that she kept fast to her skepticism largely because she, herself, realized that it was what Mulder needed. And that definitely is a really difficult thing to do, particularly when it comes to someone you care about, because your impulse is always going to be to give them what they want rather than what they need.

I agree with you, though, that it would have been a lot more interesting, and would have made the characters richer, if there had been the kind of progression you talk about. But Chris Carter is the kind of writer who's great at assembling ducks, and not so good at getting them into a row.

Re: bad fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I really, really, like this interpretation of Scully's skepticism.

Re: bad fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
What a_potato said. The Scully haters are nuts.

Besides, there's a difference believing in government conspiracy and possible aliens and believing every single batshit thing that comes down the chute before subjecting it to critical scrutiny, MULDER.

Re: bad fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
there's a difference believing in government conspiracy and possible aliens and believing every single batshit thing that comes down the chute before subjecting it to critical scrutiny, MULDER.

Still loling at this. These exact words really ought to have come out of Scully's mouth at some point. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure Scully expressed this sentiment all the time, except with her inside voice.