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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-16 06:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #3666 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3666 ⌋

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Re: Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I think everybody knows all the major plot points by now but just in case, I'm still gonna say there are 'Rogue One' spoilers here.

Today, a friend of a friend declared to all of us that Jyn Erso is racist, because she "disrespects" Cassian Andor and Saw Gerrera. By "disrespect" she meant "argues with them."

Apparently, a white woman arguing with non-white men, regardless what those men have done, is wrong.

People kind of awkwardly changed the subject after that, but...what.

What is this kind of logic.

"Hey Cassian, I know you were ordered to kill my father, and you almost did it, but the actor who plays you is Mexican, so I'm not gonna call you on it."

"Hey Saw, I know you raised me up as a child soldier and eventually abandoned me in a bunker, but the actor who plays you is black, so don't worry, I'll swallow my pain and pretend everything is cool between us."

And how is it not racist to say that non-white people must always be treated like shining paragons of virtue.

And what about the gender dynamic, here, because isn't this also saying a woman should just roll over and be a doormat for a couple of men?

Here's this super diverse movie, and it's still bad and wrong because the female character is white. And, you know, maybe there's something to the idea we should get to have some more non-white women as protagonists, since there's still a gap there, but there's a point where it's like...are you sure you're not trying to find a reason to be mad?

For fuck's sake.

Re: Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
White women are the new white men. Sexism is also hilarious and progressive when POC do it to white women.

Re: Rant Thread

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-01-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
The movie is not that deep.

Re: Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-01-17 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well...no, it's very straightforward.

But I'm not really sure what that has to do with people thinking a white female character is racist for arguing with non-white characters, unless you're saying the movie isn't deep enough to be racist.

Re: Rant Thread

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-01-17 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
That interpretation requires reading subtext onto those conflicts that the movie isn't written to handle. Those conflicts don't happen because the characters are played by POC. Those conflicts happen because Rogue One is a military thriller. (And in one case, the non-white character is right.)

Now, is it racist (and sexist) for Stafford to argue with Johnson nee Gobel over authorship of technical documentation. Yes, because that's the whole point of those scenes.