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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-28 03:54 pm

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Erik wasn't Mystique's love interest in XMFC. She had a sort of crush on him because he was the first person she had met who was cool about her being blue. But Beast was DEFINITELY her love interest in the movie.

Also, I don't know why they would pick Peeta as her love interest in the first hunger games but Gale in the second.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's kind of how the Hunger Games books went? Peeta was the lead romantic interest in the first one, Gale had the leading role as a romantic interest in the second one.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
da

But Peeta is the one who she had the sexual awakening kissing scene on the beach with.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Mystique and Erik slept together anyway, so there was genuine sexual attraction.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Not in the movies.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT: I've only seen First Class out of the new XMen films and I could have sworn they slept together in it? It's been years since I've seen it so if I'm wrong, I'm sorry.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2017-01-29 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
They did. Cause he got all weird about her NOT being in her natural form.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Do these movies actually acknowledge the age difference? Do the characters ever mention it or feel guilty about it? I'm genuinely curious, I haven't seen many JLaw or Emma Stone movies. (Because for me, that's kinda part of the kink...)
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2017-01-28 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
No, which for me is part of the problem of it just being sexist and harder to kink on. (Though it usually is nothing the characters need to feel *guilty* about, I just would like to see it acknowledged every once in a while that men can't expect younger women to commonly pay attention to them.)
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[personal profile] randomdrops 2017-01-28 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that I know if, no. I don't think people would have quite as much of an issue with it if it was directly addressed in the source.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
American Hustle does, because JLaw's playing a trophy wife.

Huh.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree the big age gap is a problem and I wouldn't mind if it went the other way a fair bit more often (without the older woman being seen as predatory), 'cause I kind like that. But it is interesting to see it laid out like that, especially if it's something you like. I guess these charts also make it easier to find movies with your kink. I do have to wonder how those charts would look if they went with the ages the actors are playing rather than the actors' ages - some wouldn't really change, but some would.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I do have to wonder how those charts would look if they went with the ages the actors are playing rather than the actors' ages - some wouldn't really change, but some would.

This too. People have mentioned that it's sexist that the age gap isn't mentioned, but in a world where 20-somethings play teenagers in high school, it's possible that a lot of the characters aren't intended to have as large of an age gap as the actors actually have.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still pretty sexist and bad news for older women and their acting careers, though.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't feel like age gaps themselves are inherently sexist. The fact that it's fine for a 57 year old to play a 20 year younger love interest for a male is fine when it wouldn't be a 57 year old woman playing a 37 year old love interest is what's sexist.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I think the point isn't that age gaps are bad, it's that these age gaps usually involve older men /younger women, with very few older women/younger men. It means that when an older man needs a love interest, the part typically goes to a woman many years his junior, and rarely a woman his own age or older.

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(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed with the fact that there aren't a lot of 'older' leading ladies, even while there are 'older' leading men, and that that's an issue that definitely needs to be addressed, but... age differences between men and women (a great deal of which are the men older, not the women) in relationships are pretty common?

(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they're actually that common at all - not when we're talking a large enough difference to be visibly noticable (e.g. more than about 10 years).

(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, there are plenty of older leading ladies, it's just that once they get to a certain age, they're no longer cast as the love interest.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about "plenty of older leading ladies"... They exist, but they don't really land the major roles the way older male actors do. At age 54,Tom Cruise is still the lead in blockbuster action flicks. Who's his female equivalent?

(Anonymous) 2017-01-29 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
There's also a general dearth of leading parts for older women, though.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-30 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
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Both you and the anon above are kinda just...strengthening my point. If there were more roles for "older leading ladies" and they were actually given opportunities to shine in those roles, maybe we wouldn't be having such a stark gender divide in terms of age-gap between love interests. One problem leads to the other.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-28 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. Big age differences are the only thing that makes me ship het. Although unfortunately mainstream media rarely makes it about the age difference and that makes it less hot again. What's the point of an age difference that is in no way addressed at any point?

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-01-29 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
THIS