[ SECRET POST #3680 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3680 ⌋

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[Versailles]


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[Mad Max: Fury Road]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Shannara]


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[A Series of Unfortunate Events]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's a perfectly valid reason, OP.

I noped the fuck out of that whole shitfuck when I watched the Jim Carrey movie version. I hadn't read the books, I knew nothing about it, I went into the theatre expecting a nice movie for kids.

I still rage when I think about it.

Who he hell takes KIDS to see that? It's nightmare fodder. So hopeless and bleak and terrifying. The paedo wedding scene nearly made me throw up.

I'm not going to watch this fucking show and I'm just stopping by here to rage some more. Why it needed another adaptation is beyond me.

[(Anonymous)]

Why it needed another adaptation is beyond me.

Because the books are really popular and a lot of people thought the movie didn't really do them justice.

[(Anonymous)]

I read the books as a kid and they really resonated with me as someone who was experiencing child abuse at the time. IMO, the strength of the book was presenting these things while always reiterating that these were awful terrible things done by bad people, which I understood better than cheerful stories.

Not saying you have to like it or anything, but yeah, some kids resonate more with bleakness then happiness.

[(Anonymous)]

It's your right to hate it but idk why you'd think it was a nice happy story based on the title?

[(Anonymous)]

Well in fairness a lot of kids' books can be named sort of dramatically grim things while still keeping an upbeat, zany feeling. Even just the title "A Series of Unfortunate Events" sounds sort of tongue-in-cheek to me (haven't read the books).

[sarillia]

Honestly, the whole thing has this weird mix of "bleak" and "tongue-in-cheek" (which I love but I definitely get how it doesn't work for everyone), and I wouldn't blame anyone for not knowing what they were getting into at the start.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt - Yeah, the books are pretty dark but they are also written in a quirky, funny style (which the show imitates wonderfully but the movie didn't do the best job of). Honestly I don't think they're darker than Harry Potter. I wouldn't recommend them for little kids but maybe older middle-schoolers, early high school. I read them as a teen, and they were shelved in the older kids section in the library. I dunno. Personally I don't think the title was misleading (it literally means "A lot of bad things happen"), and while I can see the appeal of going into a movie without knowing anything about it, it's just a little silly to then act like the movie tricked them somehow. I don't know of a nicer way to put that, I think everyone's free to like or dislike something. This series has always been one of those "love it or hate it" things even before the adaptations so, eh.

[(Anonymous)]

They aren't really depressing books, more like a parody of a really depressing kid's book? I always thought they were supposed to be more funny than genuinely bleak or depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but

1) "A Series of Unfortunate Events" is rather mild understatement once you realize what the subject matter is. If you don't, then you don't realize that it's about losing your parents, evil guardians, kidnapping, forced marriage, etc. because an "unfortunate event" implies it's more along the lines of dropping your ice cream cone or getting your sandwich stolen by a seagull.

2) Do you not find that the majority of literature for children ARE generally nice happy stories as opposed to depressing tales of loss and suffering?

[(Anonymous)]

1. I guess this is more subjective than I thought because no, I don't think of dropping an ice cream cone when I hear that title. But I also wouldn't assume that a PG movie was about dropping an ice cream cone. To be fair, when I first read the title, I was looking at an illustrated cover of the book. And then I read the back of the book.

2. Actually, no. A lot of excellent children's literature deals with dark themes and puts the children in scary situations. They don't all have that as the major premise of the story, but kids books are full of orphans, abusive adults, life-threatening danger. Hell, all of those plot points you listed are in a lot of fairytales. And imo that's good for kids. It lets them use their imaginations and prepare for the harsh realities of life, while maintaining a safe distance. And in the case of kids whose lives are already harsh, it can be a huge comfort.

Oh my god you were a boring as fuck kid

[chardmonster]

How on earth were you able to sit through basically any Disney movie?

I mean even just recent ones feature the death of parents and intense alienation in Frozen.

MATILDA

Or hell, Princess Bride? There's forced marriage and a fucking PAIN MACHINE

FATHER THE CHILDREN ARE CRYING

[chardmonster]

DAVID BOWIE HAS KIDNAPPED A BABY AND THERE ARE MONSTERS

DANCE MAGIC DANCE? INAPPROPRIATE KIDNAPPING INAPPROPRIATE

FATHER FATHER

[chardmonster]

HOW DARE THEY SHOW THIS IN SCHOOL

THERE WAS AN OBNOXIOUS MOHAWK BOY WHO WAS SLAUGHTERED ON SCREEN BY AN OLD MAN

PETER PAN IS AN ADULT HANGING OUT WITH CHILDREN THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE

EVEN THE NAME OF THIS MOVIE IS A WEAPON

I AM OFFENDED

[chardmonster]

THIS HALF NAKED BOY'S HORSE JUST DIED IN A SWAMP

I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I WATCHED MOANA TWICE

[chardmonster]

AT NO POINT IS SHE WEARING A FLOTATION DEVICE

THAT'S IT! I TOLD YOU

[chardmonster]

SEXUAL ROCKS ARE NOT FOR CHILDREN

Re: Oh my god you were a boring as fuck kid

[(Anonymous)]

Calm down. *I* wasn't the one who thought A Series of Unfortunate Events was too dark for kids. I was merely pointing out that if you didn't know the subject matter, the title doesn't necessarily clue you in and that a lot of childrens literature doesn't necessarily cover similar subjects, i.e. parental death, getting creeped on by a rando kidnapper, relatives getting horribly killed off, etc.

You're usually a little more with it than this, but I guess the temptation to go on a clever all-caps rant was too much, eh?

Re: Oh my god you were a boring as fuck kid

[(Anonymous)]

Your whole thread here just made me laugh, thank you.

Re: Oh my god you were a boring as fuck kid

[(Anonymous)]

Sharing this whole ASOUE thread with a friend and we were both like, "OH MY GOD, RETURN TO OZ!"

That shit... The fucking wheelers, the lady with all the heads, her being in an institute or whatever because it was all "in her head".

[(Anonymous)]

Offhand, I'm thinking of these cheerful tales:

Where the Lilies Bloom
The Outsiders
That Was Then, This is Now
Sounder
My Brother Sam is Dead
The Chocolate War
I Am the Cheese
Where the Red Fern Grows
After the First Death
Wringer

[(Anonymous)]

"Who he hell takes KIDS to see that? It's nightmare fodder."

This just in, kids can only watch happy fun time stuff. No grim stuff allowed.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - Citing a specific example of something ayrt finds inappropriate for kids doesn't mean they find everything that isn't "happy fun time stuff" inappropriate, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Except they cited the whole movie. As if the series is a blight on humanity and going to ruin poor children's brains and anyone who enjoys it as an awful human being. It reeks very much of "SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!" attitude when most kids grew up on the series and is no more grim than Harry Potter or a standard fare classic Disney movie.

[tcex28]

Using their mutual bond, intelligence, creativity and resourcefulness to navigate a corrupt world full of over-the-top villains and secret dealings? Kids love that kind of adventure.

The horribleness in the story is always tempered with wit, absurdity, and a deliberately detached ironic style, so I never found reading the books or watching the show to be a particularly intense experience.

[(Anonymous)]

Not trying to mock you, but statistically movies for kids are a lot more likely to be darker

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/12/why-kids-movies-are-full-of-death/383819/