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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-22 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3703 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3703 ⌋

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Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-02-23 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that's an idiom that an editor should have caught.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm an editor for a living. "To slip" is an entirely appropriate verb, and honestly I can't think of another that would better describe the event in question, nor immediately a recasting of the sentence that wouldn't be an exercise in mental gymnastics.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Like this: "You leave your used condoms on the floor, so we end up slipping on them."

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Clunky. And using a compound sentence when a simple should suffice is counterintuitive.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-02-23 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Trip.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Trip does not mean the same thing as slip.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Tripping on a condom vs slipping on one is a very different action

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-02-23 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
"Slip on" has the double meaning of "to put on (a garment) quickly" as well as "to slide on or down a slippery surface." (both Merriam-Webster) It's not immediately obvious that condoms stay slippery that long.

As editors, our job is to minimize potential ambiguities, even at the expense of additional words (unless you're writing poetry or comedy, where the wordplay is appropriate.) That's something you already know since it's in THE FUCKING STYLEBOOK (any stylebook, AP, APA, or Chicago.)

Trip is linked as related verb, so it's not a "very different action," a subtly different action at most. But I'll admit I wasn't giving it my full attention in five minutes before dinner. Change that weak-ass adjective to something that describes how the quality of the condom supports the verb in this case. Add a two-word prepositional phrase to make the action unambiguous. "We slip when stepping on your slimy condoms." That gives the full picture of what's going on with minimal changes to the sentence structure, no change to the active verb, and only two words added to the wordcount.

Or, you can continue to yell at readers forced to puzzle out ambiguity among two different, well-documented, and fully idiomatic meanings for "slip on."

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
How would you even trip on a condom?
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Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

[personal profile] were_lemur 2017-02-23 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Someone very well-endowed is wearing it, standing on a lower surface so that their dick is at floor level?

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Er... if you're an editor for a living who can't think their way around something that simple, I'm a little concerned for your clients.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
You skipped a critical word in the sentence to which you are responding. And some of the sentences suggested, while accurate, have been utter garbaage in terms of pleasant short-reading.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Most of them are an improvement on the the original, though. As an editor, I would've thought you'd appreciate that. I'm a littl skeptical of the whole "editor for a living" thing, though.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
"Many people leave used condoms on the floor. We often slip on them."

This works better, as ending the sentence with "them" breaks up the unintentional idiom. The word order of the idiom, if it were the other meaning, would be "slip them on." It is more clearly not this meaning.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Used condoms make us slip. Not as colloquial but still concise and gets the message across without that instant wtf reaction most people would have. Myself included,

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Used condoms make us slip" is just about the worst, least informative thing I've read today. How? In what way? The original sentence might make some people do a double-take, but this actively raises questions.

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I mean, they could expand that to, "Used condoms left on hotel room floors often cause housekeeping staff to slip."

Re: Things that make you go "What is WRONG with people??"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-23 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
You realize they want people to keep reading, right? It's a puff piece not a technical manual.