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[Movie: 8Uppers, Actor/Singer: Nishikido Ryo]

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[Psych, Shawn/Jules]

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[Gentlemen Prefer Blondes]

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[Yuri on Ice]

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[Irish comedian Ed Byrne and the Great British Bake Off]

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[Pokemon B/W]

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[Overwatch]

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I'm really uncomfortable with all of it.

Unless you count Loki as a religious figure. I enjoy all kinds of interpretations of Loki, but then I don't think of it as religious, or even mythological, I suppose. Because I discovered them as "old stories" that's all I think of them as, I guess, and interpretations are cool, whereas I'm uncomfortable with religious figures being made into fictional characters in general. Anything about angels and demons makes me cringe, etc.

I kind of relate to that. In the sense that in many cases, either I find the portrayal so far from any type of "reality" that I view it as some kind of random fantasy and disassociate it mentally from the religious source, or if it is striving for some sort of authenticity I disagree with how it's shown, and then feel a little uncomfortable.

I'm probably most okay with things like more minor angels and such, because the stakes are lower with them.

I'm with you; I have a hard time suspending my belief, if that makes sense. So I just can't even with SPN's idea of angels "possessing" humans, so that one's an automatic no-go for me. And angels wanting sex just leaves me super weirded out, though demons seducing humans makes sense. Any canon with "sexy" angels is something I just won't read or watch.

I enjoy Jim Butcher's portrayal of Uriel in the Dresden Files. And Carrie Vaughn's origin mythos involving Lucifer in the Kitty series was pretty cool.

And "Lucifer" on FOX, for some reason. It's all his POV, and he's the anti-hero protagonist, so of course the (unreliable) narrative is going to have him justifying his actions to all and sundry, especially his (deluded) self. Naturally he thinks he's an instrument of justice, because he thinks he's the good guy. (That being said, I have not yet seen S2, so no spoilers, please.) My husband, OTOH, does not like that show at all because he takes issue with the POV.

Ohhhhh man, I have such an issue with all the portrayals of angels in media, especially that whole "no free will" thing. They think you can have your "no free will" cake and eat it too, and they make these angels who don't have free will because they... choose not to have it? And then they do stuff based on their own choices which means they DO have free will and just... what.
That makes no sense.
And I agree with you that sexy angels is just... no.

The thing with Lucifer is that nowadays he's being recast as the misunderstood rebel who wants to Find Himself. While I find some of these portrayals entertaining from a woobie perspective (and don't get me wrong, there's a lot of beautiful angst you can mine there), it's... not quite Lucifer, for me.
Then again, Lucifer is super different in Christianity and Judaism, so there's that too...

...if they don't have Free Will, then how did a third of them follow Lu's rebellion?

I would like to see a portrayal of Lucifer where he understands exactly what he did, and is either not sorry at all and continuing to do everything he can to undermine God and God's people-- or where he actually is sorry and tries to make amends for what he did. I've gone both those direction with demons (though not Lucifer himself) in my own writing, and it's super fun to explore.

tbh I have no idea how Christianity justifies the rebellion thing. We don't have that in Judaism, and Jewish angels have no free will, and Satan isn't the bad guy and didn't rebel against anything.
So I can't really help you there.

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