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[(Anonymous)]

I think her being associated with Moana is less the problem and more people not attempting to pronounce her harder to pronounce name. Like, irl I have a difficult to pronounce, obviously not English last name and the amount of people who conspicuously avoid saying it, or worse, butcher it despite me telling them how to say it, is very noticeable.

[(Anonymous)]

If you told them how to say it and they still butcher it, it's shitty to blame them. Lots of people have honest trouble with new words and names and it's not a choice they can just correct right away even if they try.

[(Anonymous)]

Its more that they aren't even trying or not listening to me. There is a difference between "trying to repeat what I say and not getting it right" and "pronouncing literally everything different from what I said." Like, if I tell you the "a" in it is pronounced "ah", don't repeat it back to me pronouncing it "ay". I'm not expecting people to like, perfect the accent, just a little effort.

[(Anonymous)]

So... speaking as someone who's friend gets frustrated with an example very similar to that one, when she says 'ah' to me, when I repeat it back, I hear myself saying 'ah'. She hears 'ay'. It's my natural accent and inflection and I am trying as hard as fuck to say AH because to me, I AM saying ah.

[(Anonymous)]

I have lived in the same place my whole life and have the same accent as everyone around me though. Its not the same as strangers - its people I interact with on a daily basis.

[(Anonymous)]

That's... literally not how accents work. Like, a good example is that no matter how hard I try, I pronounce "pillow" like "pellow"-- I have no control over this. I try my damnedest to make the "correct" vowel sound (mostly because people mock me incessantly over it), and it always comes out the same. In my head, it sounds right, but my mouth is forming it the "wrong" way.

So you can sit there and get angry that people "aren't trying" if you want to, but I promise you that people are not going out of their way to get shit wrong at you. It's embarrassing to get called out on how you speak, and no one's doing it intentionally.

[(Anonymous)]

As I said above - its people with the same accent as me. I have lived in one town my whole life, and its people who have known me or my family for years. My name is spanish, not scandanvian.

Sorry, but you aren't in my situation. I can tell when people are trying and not getting it right versus not trying cause no one corrects them.

[(Anonymous)]

Either your name is difficult to pronounce or it's not. You're trying to have it both ways. You can't say that irl you have a very difficult to pronounce name and that everyone who can't pronounce it right is just not trying. Or, rather you obviously can say that, but it's unreasonable.

[(Anonymous)]

I worded it badly, let me clarify. Its not difficult to pronounce, but its kinda difficult to guess how its pronounced just by reading it. Its an less common hispanic last name, and its kind of long, so I don't expect people to guess as easy as they would "Garcia" or "Mendes" or something, but its not actually hard to say. But quite often people decide "well I don't know how to say that" immediately on seeing it, so even when I tell them they won't try or listen to my telling them cause they just get stuck in this "I don't know how to say that" mindset.

Also I don't think anyone's name is unreasonable.

[(Anonymous)]

Since I didn't actually say that anyone's name is unreasonable, I think you're either being lazy or deliberately misunderstanding people in this thread.

[(Anonymous)]

i have insomnia and responded late at night, so maybe I was confused about what you said. But sure, ignore literally every other point I made.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Not just that, but with some languages there's the issue of 'collections' of letters where the sound is unique to that language, and having grown up speaking it your mouth knows where to be to form that sound.

I wouldn't mock say, an Asian person butchering a Swedish name in the same way I wouldn't mock a Swedish person butchering an Asian name.

Unless they're mangling it on purpose, give them time and maybe repeat it a few times like, "Actually this part sounds more like [example]."