[ SECRET POST #3755 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #3755 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 50 secrets from Secret Submission Post #536.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[case]

Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

[(Anonymous)]

I thought this
https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1598046.html?thread=956044638#cmt956044638
type of useless comments weren't allowed?

[(Anonymous)]

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1598046.html?thread=956052830#cmt956052830

Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

i don't understand

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

Forgive me if I don't quite believe that. It's difficult to!

If you'd like to post about the anime trope "trap" in fiction, go ahead, but your post had no indication of whether you were talking about the trope or actual people. If you'd like a very recent and previous wank to reference, you can check the past week or so of posts.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

i don't see what the difference is or why it matters? i love real traps too

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

the problem is that's not the preferred nomenclature

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

If that is true, then I'm sure you realize that using the term trap for a trans woman is generally considered pretty offensive and/or a slur. And now that I know you literally did mean real people with your post, I can tell you I'll delete it again.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

but what makes it different just because it's real people?

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

Well, the the slang term "trap" has a certain meaning as a trope in the anime genre. Words such as "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" are also used in various fictional porn genres, but all of these words generally don't apply to real people and/or are considered offensive and/or a slur when applied to actual people.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

but anime traps are just cartoon versions of a real kind of person, aren't they?

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

Stop. You're not cute. You're not funny. There is no way you're this stupid.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

No, actually, which is kind of interesting. Not to go in a fandom history lecture or anything, but the first few types of characters it was used for were not transgender at all. They were used for characters like Bridget from Guilty Gear who was raised as a girl and looked feminine but but definitely identified as male. Hence "it's a trap," meaning he looked like a girl but turned out to be a boy, both physically and mentally. Originally, the characters considered "traps" didn't have breasts or anything like that, didn't want them, and were not trans in the least. "Chicks with dicks," to use your phrase, do NOT fall under the original trap trope.

This is the original: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DudeLooksLikeALady

It's a trap because they're actually male-identified biologically male men (who usually aren't into other men, either).

People took that term then started applying it to trans women for some reason when it's not the same thing at all. Trans women considered it generally offensive because it sounded like people were saying they were "trapping" hetero men into relationships or sex with them by "tricking" them about their gender (which clearly wasn't the case there) and/or saying they were "feminine looking men" when you know, they identified as feminine looking women.

So it's not even "the cartoon version of a real kind of person." It's more like a cartoon thing that people for some reason started applying sometimes to a totally different group of actual people (?). I don't know why that happened, but that's the history of it.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

help me understand, what needs to be done so my traps post is acceptable? i can put it behind a trigger warning if that's necessary

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

Have Wako post it for you and you should be fine.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

Not a solution, unfortunately. See thread above where poster cannot tell why posting about real people is any different.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

Don't post it dumbass. Nobody needs your bullshit.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck off, I like traps too and I'd like a trap thread.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

"WAAAAAAH"

Also and you're still using 'traps' you gross fuck.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

i am OP but i am not AYRT and i think case can confirm that

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

It's probably an anon arguing with themselves, trying to start wank.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not them, dumbfuck.

I mean traps as actual traps and not girls with dicks like that other anon. I'm in fact grossed out by girls with dicks.

(frozen comment) Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

Aw, look at you trying to start wank.

[kamino_neko]

#7 is over 1000 pixels wide.

[(Anonymous)]

Stop snitchin'