[ SECRET POST #3800 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3800 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Killing Stalking]


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[The 100, Echo and Bellamy]


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[Anne (the new remake of L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables)]


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[Pokémon ORAS]


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[Homestuck]


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Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But they're not gay?

[(Anonymous)]

they can be but it's not guaranteed

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I guess that's the part I'm not quite getting

[(Anonymous)]

What's not to get? You think you only can ship a relationship that fits your sexual orientation? Shipping is about liking the dynamics between two characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Are we talking about shipping or porn here? I guess my mind was kind of at porn rather than shipping, my apologies if that was an incorrect mindset

Also, there's a difference between shipping things, and being a member of a fandom specifically devoted to shipping m/m stuff? Like, at the point where you're identifying yourself on the basis of liking m/m stories generally, that's something distinct from shipping things that are m/m. And that's not wrong obviously, but

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT There's a lot of yaoi manga out there that's pretty pornographic, but not all manga featuring m/m relationships is like that. A good chunk of it is pretty PG, though I've seen people refer to the tamer stuff as BL and the harder stuff as yaoi. A guy who's into the genre may just love reading about the relationships and analyzing the subtext or they may just be into it for the porn because it's hot. Or maybe they're into both.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but I think that's maybe a big point here. A lot of BL isn't pornographic at all and doesn't go beyond kissing. So essentially, what it is is a love story told in a stereotypically "feminine" way (as they are usually written by women, for women). I'm guessing a lot of these guys are just interested in this type of romance story, with all of its romantic tropes and such. Not a lot of romance is targeted toward men in general, and there could just be a lot of guys who genuinely like that stuff, and maybe for some reason the BL stuff resonates more than the shoujo romance.

[(Anonymous)]

I've stumbled upon places on the internet full of straight guys fantasizing about sucking cock. So I can see this, actually.

[(Anonymous)]

Raise your hand if you immediately thought of Cockrub Warriors:
http://man2manalliance.org/crw/sg.html

…no, it's not safe for work.

[(Anonymous)]

Straight people can enjoy gay stories without being gay/bi, news at eleven.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I guess I was thinking more in terms of gay porn

I hope it's not homophobic to suggest that it's a little uncommon for straight men to enjoy watching gay porn

[(Anonymous)]

Just butting in to say I know straight women who like lesbian porn. Because it's about their own bodies feeling good and they don't feel confronted by a guy being involved. Doesn't mean they are personally sexually attracted to women. Not sure why it's any different for a guy.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair go then, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a hetero female and I'm in to f/f ships seeing as they make up the majority of my favorite ships.
Yet I've only rarely seen hetero males who can ship m/m or at least they don't admit it.

[soldatsasha]

There's a lot of straight guys who ship m/m. They just NEVER admit it un-anon. But go to any anonymous forum and they'll start crawling out of the woodwork.

Like, for example, a lot of straight guys romanced Dorian in Dragon Age: Inquisition, because they liked him better than the straight options, and you'd even see dudes on reddit and the various chans passing around Dorian/m!Inquisitor fanfic links and stuff. Same thing with SoRiku in Kingdom Hearts, Hannigram, etc.

[nightscale]

Huh.

This shouldn't really surprise me since I've met straight girls who liked f/f before, but I am kinda surprised by straight dudes into m/m, I guess because there's a bit more of a stigma around guys liking romance anyway but liking gay romance would be something I'd figure they'd not be into purely on the whole 'I'm not gay' front.

This isn't bad at all though, it's actually pretty interesting and nice to know that there are straight dudes who's reaction to m/m isn't some variant of being grossed out.

[digitalghosts]

Yeah, it is mostly due to stigma - both with romance and porn. Sure, some of it is pure preferences but the dissonance does not help - notice how in 'straight' porn some directors shoehorn girl on girl scenes? Gay porn never gets random surprise threesomes while lesbian one ... yep. However, in my home town it was common for teens to say 'lesbians are okay in porn or in threesomes lololol, gays are always gross'. Even if we disagree - we still grow up around that.

I had a friend who was as straight as they go even to the point of working in computer shop, playing drums, liking metal and having good relationship with his parents. He did like yaoi and slash, has a girlfriend (also straight). Point of it is - he is a crossdresser (yep, outed, has a blog) and one of best ones I seen (here I mean him being best in his own niche). Yep, his girlfriend knows and supports. Notice how silly it is of me to explain that as if not due to cultural weirdness, it would not be necessary.

Less 'extreme' examples are a youtuber who reviews yaoi and the dude who runs one of those weird manga blogs but he said so on the side when asked. Dragon Age (someone mentioned it below but in relation to game play) had few straight blokes writing slash fics. However, most dudes mention that if they know someone who is in some fandom as seen those as betas or just silent fans.

[(Anonymous)]

" a friend who was as straight as they go even to the point of working in computer shop, playing drums, liking metal and having good relationship with his parents." Aside from drums (sax) you are describing my bisexual son. In what world are any of those guaranteed "straight" markers?

[digitalghosts]

In reality - of course they are not as you could be the most muscely dude who is a professional football player and loves car and is gay. I probably written it wrong as meant that stereotypes from our area say that such and such characteristics are straight. Then again, in same area, no one would suspect you of being gay. There is no set personality or attributes making one straight besides themselves saying so.