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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-11 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3812 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3812 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
But are they more popular relative to the popularity of f/f and m/m in general?

Not that it matters either way, I'm honestly just curious.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes, they definitely are.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Like... explain more? I'm honestly just interested in where you're coming from! It doesn't seem clear to me either way.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I'm not making a value judgement or anything, but I feel like a lot of people in fandom are obsessed with f/f ships being "pure," while these judgements don't necessarily apply as much to M/M or M/F ships. Like, I'm not even really familiar with the ships in question that the OP listed, but how old are the younger women supposed to be in these relationships? Mid to late 20s? That's really nothing. I've seen many, many popular M/M and M/F ships where the younger party (and in the case of M/F, it's usually a younger woman) is barely legal or not legal at all lol.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well two things I guess

One, are we talking about how popular the dynamics of age gap relationships are? Or are we talking about how big the age gap is? I kinda feel like the first thing is more significant - so even though both relationships OP mentioned are with 20-somethings, the dynamics of both ships are all about the age-gap trope and experience/inexperience and authority/submission.

Second, I think it's also relevant to take account how frequently age-gap dynamics appear in lesbian-oriented media outside of fandom strictly speaking. It's such a common trope, you know?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Sure, but the M/M age gap ships I know are popular tend to play on the experience/inexperience and authority/submission thing too.

Yes, and this actually does frustrate me, but the OP was talking about fandom -- not specifically lesbian media, so I was kind of irked by this.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Yeah but....a relationship with someone who isn't legal is a different thing than a "May - December" relationship. I mean, sometimes they might overlap (and the secret maker does seem to be conflating the two), but a May - December relationship is just referring to a large age gap between the two. It doesn't have anything to do with legality.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes, the OP was claiming that these May/December relationships between women apparently feeds into the stereotype that gay women are predatory pedophiles. However, if that was the case, wouldn't the OP be more concerned with popular ships where one of the characters isn't even an adult? In my experience, there are many popular M/M and M/F ships where this is the case, whereas there aren't many F/F ships where it is.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-12 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
a lot of people in fandom are obsessed with f/f ships being "pure,"

I'm darkly amused by what they would have thought of the Damages fandom, back in the day.