[ SECRET POST #3823 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3823 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So you think he's a potential home-wrecker (or at least an asshole who's ok with making his friends uncomfortable) and planned to confess to a married woman with kids as soon as he returned to Hasetsu?

Because at this point it's pretty obvious that whole scene (just like Yuuko's first appearance) was a misdirection and subversion of the childhood crush trope.

[(Anonymous)]

If you add it to the later statement about how he used skating to escape from negative feelings and substract the point in the Yuko/Takeshi relationship he left Hatsetsu, the answer sure doesn't read like "subversion" in my book.

Additionally, people can confess romantic feelings for other reasons than hoping for a relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

I think he's a guy who wanted some kind of closure after too many years of suffering from his unrequited crush.

You have some seriou issuess if you seriously believe that confessing your love to someone you know won't return your feelings makes you a selfish asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, putting yourself first ("I" want closure) without any thought on how it'll affect the other party (a good friend, supposedly) would be rather asshole-ish.

And we know he was suffering from regret of not being there for Vicchan, failing skating wise and having no idea of what to do now; not from an unrequited crush.

But sure, instead of accepting it's ambiguous and that there's enough to supports that he may not have a crush on Yuko (including how nothing was even mentioned about that, or how he defined his fellinga for everyone except Victor as abstract), please keep saying it's "obvious" he had a crush on her.

[(Anonymous)]

It's obvious he had a crush on her. There's a thing called narrative text. There would have been no reason to write it like that if it weren't trying to show you that he had a crush on her. Sorry that makes him an asshole to you, but that's just what's canon.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but that's absolutely not canon. I agree that there's no way the scene was ignorant of seeming at first like a romantic confession to a childhood friend - that's very obvious - but it was instantly yanked backwards and subverted. You can't claim it's canon that Yuri had a crush on Yuko because there's no evidence of it. I think it's a valid reading, sure, but the point of the scene was bait-and-switch, not to establish romantic interest.

[(Anonymous)]

Except the Japanese grammar actually makes it canon. He was literally starting to confess to her in Japanese, though you can't translate it properly in English to make that clear without it sounding awkward af.

Sit down and let the people who know what they're talking about have a discussion.

[(Anonymous)]

So you're trying to say that he had a crush on her for years and was so desperate for closure that he decided to ignore the consequences a confession would have on his childhood friendships, despite he barely interacted with (he spend more time training with her husband than with her!) or mentioned her on thought about her AT ALL during the whole show?

If you think that makes narrative sense, well...

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it makes sense because he used to like her, then he found Victor and moved on. Why would he spend time thinking aboust his old crush when he found a new one who is not only available but obsessed with him? Also way to be dramatic, Yuuri and Yuuko are both adults, a confession wouldn't have had any dramatic consequences.

The bi erasure in this fandom is off the charts.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a bit late in the post to be trying that particular angle.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, whatever you say.

[(Anonymous)]

Your reading comprehension is pretty bad if you think it's bi erasure to point that this "crush on Yuko" isn't canon.

But then you're also saying that a bad-timed confession can't make things awkward.

And that his crush on Yuko was so big and important that he couldn't get over it without proper closure after years.

And that said important crush disappeared as soon as he had someone else who was available and into him.... maybe like the girl in Detroit he pushed away (which, you know, it's actually canon unlike this crush thing)?

Now I'm sure you're just trolling. Have a nice night :)

[(Anonymous)]

....this happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME in Japanese media. They're into confessions, and one-sided confessions are extremely common. It's a cultural difference.

[(Anonymous)]

So the context in the show doesn't matter? And that hey subverted common tropes in Japanese media is also irrelevant? Ok.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but why in the world would you confess your love to someone unless there was a chance? If they are in a happy, committed relationship, all you're going to do is make them feel awkward and set yourself up for official rejection. I'm not sure I'd say you're an automatic asshole for doing it, but it is super fucking awkward and in most cases, extremely inappropriate, imo.

[(Anonymous)]

Some people want closure and don't want to spend the rest of their lives thinking "what if".

[(Anonymous)]

What "what if" is there when the other party is happily married with kids?

[(Anonymous)]

You'll never know until your try.

[(Anonymous)]

So he though there was a chance of her leaving Takeshi (and maybe even the triplets) for him, ok.

[(Anonymous)]

Putting your own feelings first is a big huge no no in Japanese culture though. Since you're pretending to be so knowledgeable about all things Japanese and all.

[(Anonymous)]

"why in the world would you confess your love to someone unless there was a chance?"

Never watched much Japanese media, have you?

[(Anonymous)]

lol at the smugness of this reply.

Also, since you do watch Japanese media, can you give us a few examples of someone confessing their feelings to someone who is married? Bonus points if they have kids :D

[(Anonymous)]

Mountain Tim to Lucy (SBR).

[(Anonymous)]

It's not even clear if Yuuri knew Yuuko was married with kids. He stopped short of confessing to her because her daughters interrupted, that could have been how he found out she was even married. That's what I assumed when I watched it.

[(Anonymous)]

Whut?

Yuko said: "Haven't they grown since you last saw them?" when they interrupted AND the triplets staid Yuuri "got fat."

Since he even knows the kids (and last time he saw them they weren't babies), saying it wasn't clear she was married with kids is pure nonsense.