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[ SECRET POST #3849 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3849 ⌋

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[Horizon Zero Dawn]

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[Jurassic World]

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[Michelle Gomez in Doctor Who, Jack Davenport in Pirates of the Caribbean]

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Ah yes, all the men they talk about in this article. Rachel Feldman, Thandie Newton, Deven MacNair, Jessica Yu, Jessica M. Thompson, and Patricia Rozema, among others.

The article is wonderful about discussing equally the effect fictional rape scenes have on the female AND male participants. It also beautifully covers how it affects the actors, actresses, and crew. Yes, it talks about how the actors who play rapists cope, BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE ARTICLE.

Honestly, did you even read it?

Yes, I did. And i saw women *mentioned*, and I saw men being comforted, men talking about how editing or filming or directing or acting in rape scenes affected them. I saw tons of stuff about men, and I saw women *mentioned*.

"A year later, Into the Forest premiered in Toronto. Eklund was there, reuniting with cast and crew. In a quiet moment, Page and Wood took the actor aside and apologized. At first he was confused. But then they explained that they hadn't fully realized how much filming that scene, playing the rapist, would affect him emotionally."

Did they apologize to the *woman*? For fuck's sake.

Literally all those women I mentioned were talked to. It opened with talking to women.

And it was divided into two sections basically. Before the Tango in Paris picture it focused on women, after the picture it focused on men.

There are dozens of articles on actresses and rape scenes. It is extremely interesting to here about how it effects the cast, crew, and actors.

And yet, I came away feeling like there was much more focus on the men and their reactions, and the women were glossed.

It still makes me angry. I don't *care* how men feel when they're *not forced in any way* to film a rape scene. Maybe they should learn better storytelling.

If you don't use rape as the go-to fucking motivation, backstory, story-arc support or raison d'être for your square-jawed hero, you won't be 'forced' to sit and watch a rape twenty times in editing.

If it is part of the story, it should be included in the movie. Sorry that you think a real aspect of people's lives should not ever be shown in movies.

I hope you feel the same way about murder scenes.

That's not what she said at all.

You're being purposefully obtuse. I'm almost convinced you wrote the article and that's why you're in this thread defending it to the ends of the earth.

Your reply made me giggle. :) Thanks!

Glad to be of service. :)

Because I said anything about editing out real people's experiences. They only mentioned *one* movie, that i recall, that had rape in it because it was in the 'source' material.

And yes, actually, I do - I'm fucking sick of gore-porn in half the damn movies out there, and seemingly in *all* of the horror movies.

Half? You mean like maybe one movie a year?

Bitch, STFU.

Wait.
So you seriously believe that men playing rapists couldn't in any way possibly be affected by this as well and think it's all nice and funny and pleasant? Because they somehow all actually want nothing more than act in a rape scene?
And do you actually believe no actress ever read the script beforehand and instead was totally surprised and forced into a sudden rape scene that just happened to appear out of thing air?

Is that what i said? No, I did not. I said " I don't *care* how men feel when they're *not forced in any way* to film a rape scene." Film, not act. I'm quite well aware of how, for instance, James Marsters felt about the whole 'Seeing Red' episode.

I'm talking about directors and producers and editors boo-hooing over how haaaaaard it was to watch this rape scene over and over in editing. I'm saying - fix your piss-poor storytelling 'talents' so that rape isn't the only way you can give the 'lead' character motivation, emotion, backstory, wtf ever.

And i have *no* clue where you're going with the second 'point' as, once again, i was talking about filming, not acting, and men, not women.

But, for the record, no, I don't think that actress should have *apologized* to that actor for having been part of a rape scene; i think the writer and director and whoever else decided it was so fucking 'necessary' should have been apologizing to everyone for being such asshats.

Now i have showers to take and breakfast to eat and things to do that don't involve being deliberately or possibly accidentally (in which case, wow) misunderstood in such ridiculous ways.

So it was a misunderstanding, boo-fucking-hoo. The term "film" is used for actors doing their job all the damn time so don't pretend that what you wrote wasn't ambiguous enough to understand just that.

I read it, and I don't think it discussed things equally. There definitely was more of a focus on the end. Especially in the last third of the article. Where there were things like how Jodie Foster cried so hard that she burst blood vessels, but what about the editors and crew? They had it so much harder. The first part of the article seemed more balanced, but then it really tipped in the middle and toward the end, in my opinion.

Yes, first it focused on the female actresses and directors, then the men.

Basically the problem can be fixed if they just switched the article below the last Tango in Paris picture with what was above.

AYRT
Except I don't feel that was the case. As there were definitely mentions of men in the first part of the article. Like the Deliverance actor. The first part of the article was fairly well balanced, in my opinion, with it slightly skewed to the women. The last half was considerably skewed to the male side. It kinda feels to me like those studies where they say that men are predominately the ones who talk and control a conversation, but women are still said to talk more. (Like where if women spoke more than 25% it was seen as them "dominating" the conversation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2205502/The-great-gender-debate-Men-dominate-75-conversation-conference-meetings-study-suggests.html Or this: http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:68785:7/component/escidoc:506904/Cutler_1990_Speaker+sex.pdf ) In this case, I feel that is about the same percentage, or close, with it being skewed male, but you perceive it as being equal or even more about the females.

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