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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-20 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3851 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3851 ⌋

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fishnchips: (Heh*drop*)

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] fishnchips 2017-07-20 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen it on my dashboard over and over again: The "walking across no-mans-land" scene from Wonder Woman.
And everyone in the notes just loves and hypes it and that's great for them if they like it so much.
But I've seen it and I just find it hysterically bad. I'm not sure what it is: the slow-mo, the costume, the length, the fact that i think the actress has all the presence and talent of a stale piece of bread (at least inthat scene), the way she looks like a misplaced model strutting along a catwalk in the beginning... probably a mix of all of the above. But I find it so ... dumb and silly. Not even a little "epic" or "empowering".

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, it felt like curb stomp anime battle that somehow wound up a war movie.
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Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] fishnchips 2017-07-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, if this scene was animated, it might even work (if it was shorter)...

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I love that scene, but that's a perfect description of it, haha.

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
It hit me quite strongly, tbh.

Something about the 'fuck it, I'm walking through the bullets' mentality.

Each to their own. :-)
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Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] fishnchips 2017-07-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh absolutely. If you love that scene and it works for you, more power to you!

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
:-)
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Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] philstar22 2017-07-21 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, I agree. I think Wonder Woman did a generally good job of combining war grittiness and superhero lightness/comic feel.

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, me too. But I think the genre needs to be kept in mind: it's a comic book movie, and Wonder Woman has superhuman strength and capabilities. Her charging through bullets and destroying the shit out of everything is a power fantasy, and it's a power fantasy for women which is amazing. More than that, it wasn't just an excuse to fling her tits around and look sexy. She was shot to look powerful.

I get how the scene would be cartoonish and jarring to someone trying to take the movie as a straight war drama, but it's comic book violence.
fishnchips: (Heh*drop*)

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] fishnchips 2017-07-21 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I watch plenty of comic book movies. I did not find the scene well done at all. She did decidedly not look even remotely powerful to me.
Your mileage may vary, of course, and you might think it was great. But that doesn't mean it's just a fact that the scene was oh so flawless, empowering and genius. It's a matter of opinion.

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but when your opinion is so ~decidedly~ minority, it says a lot. Not like it's the first time you've expressed a similarly dodgy opinion on here anyway.
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Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

[personal profile] fishnchips 2017-07-21 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ah so in your opinion, 50 Shades of Grey must be a brilliant, flawless book series because how could all those people who love it be wrong!

Do tell me about those allegedly "dodgy" opinions I've had. Do keep in mind that "dodgy" doesn't mean "does not agree with your opinion" though. Give me some example, will you, after you already bothered to bring it up.
Edited (Still waiting~) 2017-07-21 13:16 (UTC)

Re: Which popular scenes fall flat for you?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-21 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I see it compared to Moana's walk through the sea to Te Ka, but that scene had me cathartic-sobbing so hard and the Diana one was just kind of... "Welp, she's finally doing something." It also bugged me that she couldn't do it on her own and needed to inspire the guys to make a charge and take away some of the pressure so she could finish it.

It felt framed as the 'real victory' was Steve taking her more seriously at that point and finally being willing to support her.

So in the spirit of comparing the movies, it was the equivalent of Moana tricking Tomatoa and rescuing them, and then Maui realizing he was wrong to doubt her. Which to me was handled a lot better since it was much more lighthearted and didn't try to be a big dramatic moment.

It just didn't quite feel like a satisfactory payoff to an hour of Diana getting lovingly curbstomped every time she tried to be unladylike, from both her mom and Steve and everyone except Antiope. I think I would have liked it better if it was a little faster and more actiony, less catwalk, and no needing help to finish it.